Is Aspergers the worst thing in the world?

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Aspergers is the worst condition in the world?
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02 Dec 2011, 12:09 am

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
Aspergers is this dark evil force that has destroyed my life.

Because of Aspergers I am unemployable loser who despite completing a college degree. I could not even get a job in fast food or retail let alone the field I studied in. Thousands of job applications and not a solitary interview. I have stated I have Aspergers on my resume/CV and I go into a long discusion trying to explain how Aspergers has adversely impacted my life and no one seems to give me a fair go.

Seriously I look like the Elephant man because of Aspergers. Aspergers is to blame for all the bad things internally and externally destroying my life. I am the ugliest person in the world and I know this due to my personal experience of being rejected on online daing sites and not getting any responses let alone a date from the sites.

Having Aspergers is a nightmare and is a living hell. Seriously cancer can not be worse than having Aspergers. Aspergers results in a potential long life time of pain and suffering. I have tried psychologists, psychiatrists, medications and cognitive behavioural therapy but none of it has ever worked or helped my Aspergers.

Very slow painful death is what Aspergers is all about.


It doesn't matter. When your hand is in the fire and you're screaming, it doesn't matter if there's something worse or not. I understand where you're coming from. I've been living it a damn long time. We're all affected to different degrees. What is controllable by some is uncontrollable by others. My life is generally hell too. I lost my 50th job this week and now I have to go find #51. But there are times when my coffee is good, the morning sun on the trees is beautiful and Beethoven is stirring my soul to the heavens. I endure because I have nothing to lose - this life will end soon enough - I live for the next sunrise. Good luck to you.



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02 Dec 2011, 12:07 pm

To call a relatively mild psychological quirk the "worst thing in the world" implies a strong lack of perspective to me. Take a look at an average newspaper, and you will see reports of much more horrifying behaviour and attributes than a simple lack of social ability. If you're blaming something on your condition, you should really realise that you are blaming yourself, as Asperger's Syndrome is an intrinsic part of all aspies, and your problems are either your own fault or your environment's.



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02 Dec 2011, 12:25 pm

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
Aspergers is worse than cancer is partially true.
Early stages of cancer can be treated, eliminated and cured.
There have even been cases where advanced cancer has been reversed and cured due to positive think and making lifestyle changes.

Most people with Aspergers are usually negative, pessimistic, self defeatist people with the fixed mindset of a child. Aspergers is a life long condition that can cause a lot of pain and trauma internally and externally in an Asperger sufferers life. There is no magical cure to Aspergers to reverse the sad, lonely, depression, socially isolated, victim, woe is me condition.

People with their Aspergers, often define themselves by their condition. Aspergers seems to be the only thing they have in their life and if it was taken away they would probably be worse off than before.

Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory is the pin up boy-man with Aspergers. He has high intelligence combined with the emotional maturity of a child. Aspergers are genuinely self centred, lack people skills, only see the world in their eyes, find it hard to express emotions/feelings, insensitive and lack empathy towards others. They also come across as know-it-alls regardless of their intelligence level and they genuinely have behavioural problems and learning difficulties. People with Aspergers have to learn how to fake emotions/feelings and empathy to attempt to fit into a world that does not accept Aspergers.


Are you describing yourself? Because you might not want to claim to know everyone elses situation.......some of us are a bit pessimistic due to things like depression, not so great life experiances and other valid reasons.

Also I am not self centered, and though usually my perspective of the world makes the most sense to me I do try to be open minded about other perspectives. I do find it hard to express emotions and feelings which bothers me because I do feel them quite intensely but its hard for me to express it to other people so sometimes they assume I don't feel anything or don't care.

So yeah I have emotions and feelings so why would I have to fake them? and why should my goal be to fit in?

and could you specify what sort of learning disabilities? I personally suck at math but I don't have much difficulty with other acedemic subjects.


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02 Dec 2011, 1:52 pm

Funny there are no "disagree" choices. NO, it's not the worst thing it the world, no it's not even on the top ten worst things in the world, even if you are only listing disorders. If you are including all bad things that can happen to a human being, it's not even on the top one hundred list, and anyone who is thinking it is, is simply indulging in self pity and not truly considering all the bad things that go on in this world. Just my opinion.



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02 Dec 2011, 4:19 pm

backagain wrote:
Funny there are no "disagree" choices. NO, it's not the worst thing it the world, no it's not even on the top ten worst things in the world, even if you are only listing disorders. If you are including all bad things that can happen to a human being, it's not even on the top one hundred list, and anyone who is thinking it is, is simply indulging in self pity and not truly considering all the bad things that go on in this world. Just my opinion.


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02 Dec 2011, 5:36 pm

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
I have stated I have Aspergers on my resume/CV and I go into a long discusion trying to explain how Aspergers has adversely impacted my life and no one seems to give me a fair go.


This is why. Take it off your resume. Without anything else to judge you on, no one is going to bother interviewing you if they think you can't do the job.



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02 Dec 2011, 6:14 pm

Yes it is the worst. Don't get me wrong I try to carry on my life not thinking about it, but there is no way to avoid it. It will always be there. Those of you who don't agree must have awesome lives.

EDIT: Actually cancer would be worse.



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02 Dec 2011, 6:17 pm

Simonono wrote:
Yes it is the worst. Don't get me wrong I try to carry on my life not thinking about it, but there is no way to avoid it. It will always be there. Those of you who don't agree must have awesome lives.


I don't think its the worst thing ever, and my life is far from awesome.


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03 Dec 2011, 1:57 am

I don't think I was made to survive or thrive in any way. The only reason I've survived is because my parents put a roof over a head and feed me and occasionally buy me things along with the disability I get. Once they're dead, unless my brother wants to take care of me for life, I'm screwed. No skills in any field, can't drive a car (driving instructors have told me "some people just aren't meant to drive)...can't handle being in any public place for more than 1-2 hours at a time, don't understand simple things, no interests, don't have any will to live and that's with the help of medicine. Without it I'd be in and out of short care depression clinics. Have tried to kill myself at least 5 times throughout my life and almost succeeded.

I wouldn't wish Aspergers (or at least my form of it) on my worst enemy. You simply can't live like this, because even if you try to avoid everything and stay out of everyone's way, your mind still races back and forth and overthinks.



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03 Dec 2011, 5:38 pm

It may not be the worst thing in the world, but not necessarily the best either.

Aspies are ill equipped to survive and thrive in a society dominated and controlled by NT/extroverted populace.

Essentially, aspies are like the undrafted, free agents who may occasionally be bench warmers. And NTs are the starters and consistent rotation players who get plenty of playing time.

Aspies are shown what the world has to offer but unfortunately have to witness what they could have or could accomplish but have more difficulty obtaining because their social skills or other deficiencies are lacking.

At best, they become late bloomers. Being late bloomer is better than nothing but still. Time was plenty lost.

Hopefully that made sense with my sports analogy.


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03 Dec 2011, 5:41 pm

I'm the benchwarmer who is even warming the bench to begin with because he has in an with the manager and if he didn't know him wouldn't be playing the sport period.



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03 Dec 2011, 8:59 pm

Perhaps this is just plain dumping, but for god's sake, seriously, there are people with cerebral palsy, brain tumors, ms, md, 2 year old's with cancer, small children fighting for their lives going through horribly painful treatments, right this second children all over the world being beaten to death, raped, etc, I see young people everyday on campus in wheelchairs that are so atrophied they probably have a life expectancy of maybe another 20 years, etc etc etc, and besides, as a parent dealing with the prospect of having a son diagnosed with schizophenia, reading this whiny driveling, self absorbed, "nobody has it tougher than me" CRAP makes me want to slap most of you self pitying video game playing, spoiled brats who seem to not be able to look past their own noses, or pull there heads out of their asses long enough to thank god or whatever power that you may believe in, or luck, of just plain f#$%ing randomness that what you have to deal with still allows for so much to be done with your lives, so many things to enjoy, contributions to be made. None of which will happen because you are concentrating on believing YOU have the hardest burden in the world to bear. Shame on all of you.

Now I think I need to go change my setting so I will no longer be notified about responses on this site, because too often I can't resist reading the new posts, and damn it, they are just making me sick.



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04 Dec 2011, 12:40 am

Wow so after reading three pages I'm amazed at how popular this is, AS is not the worst thing in the world, having it with depression and anxiety can however make it different, I've read alot of people here who have had relatives die of cancer, or a son with another mental illness that maybe harder to handle( I don't know I don't have it nor have I met anyone with it ). I rather not start another war with everyone but I believe you must consider the state and feelings of each individual case, to say cancer is worse than AS, I don't agree, but of you add depression and anxiety disorders to it, that person would rather have cancer because they ( like me ) don't care about dying, they have seen there side of life they're done with and feel no reason left to live simply because, in this case cancer, you usually you don't live more than a couple of years after having it diagnosed as anything past being able to stop it, where as depression and AS, and possibly anxiety disorders will never go away completely, or ever even weaken.

As for a disorder worse than AS, my opinion is I'd rather have down syndrome or another one where, I still autism but atleast I will never know it, I won't be able to think about how I'm different from others.

Yeah I'm negative and down on all parts of my life but, I didn't choose to have this of I had cancer when I was born, I would be just as angry about my life as I am now and feel death the same way, probably wanting a second chance at life, but if Ive learned one thing from my life so far your dealt the cards you get and from there it's up too you on how you approach life of death is what you want than fine if life is than great, but no matter how many people here right whether they think AS is worse than cancer or other illness you have no right to tell them that their wrong or whether they should be ashamed, because your not them, you give an opinion fine but to condem someone on the forums to a word is unreasonable, no matter how bad or sad you are.

Just my opinion again pls don't drill me with posts.


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04 Dec 2011, 12:55 am

Aspergers with other mental problems (severe chemical depression/OCD/ADD/Bi Polar/PTSD all diagnosed) is worse than anything else...because like the last poster said, it makes life unbearable and there is no cure at all. Someone with cancer knows they are going to die in a year or two. I envy them and would gladly trade positions.

Some people might just have "Aspergers" and feel sorry for themselves and that's a different story altogether.



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04 Dec 2011, 1:17 am

Yeah, that is a bit of a dump alright. I think the fallacy is to presume we know what it is like to be someone else. I know something of many years of chronic physical pain. I have had family ravaged and killed by MS and cancer. I have known emotional pain so prolonged, intense and palpable as to rival any physical pain.

Of course there are plenty of whiners. There are also those who minimze the genuine suffering of others because they are fortunate enough to have never experienced it for themselves.



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04 Dec 2011, 1:55 am

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