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24 Jul 2016, 2:28 pm

I feel like I've observed the reasonable members on WP to actually be quite a majority rather than a small minority. But I agree that this stuff happens on all large forum boards and in all communities. Even NT ones, actually. One look at any comment section of a major online news site will show you that people always react and overreact to each other's opinions -- that is not even exclusive to people with autism. NT people can be like this too.

Thus it's even more unfair, in my view, to judge harshly the "over sensitive" aspies. There are people on here who haven't had a picnic of a life, can you blame 'em for being permanently defensive? They don't always mean to be or even want to be. How ironic that anyone here is talking about how annoying they are. Wow.



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24 Jul 2016, 3:14 pm

I wonder if you know that you are posting in "The Haven", where sensitive people like me tend to gather. I can be loony as batshit but I know it's safe to tell The Haven about it.

But you are looking for something else. Give me a hint - what do you want to talk about?



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24 Jul 2016, 3:57 pm

There's a whole bunch of women on here who find sexism in absolutely anything to do with women, and yet quite happily ignore the same views when expressed towards men. Then there's a bunch of men who are disgusting perverts. And of course there's the a**holes that like to rub their happy relationships in the faces of us perpetually single people and then hurl abuse at us for being single.

And that's just the love and dating part of the site.



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24 Jul 2016, 4:05 pm

I think I'm a bad member because although I have 1,000+ posts here, I still am not very popular. I have had members saying that they read my posts and like my posting style and they've also said that I have interesting posts. Some have even said that I'm emotionally bright.

The thing is, I'm a good listener and empathiser, but I'm not very good at giving advice, especially if the OP is really long. I have replied advice or answers to people's OP's, but that's usually threads about a social faux pas. I find those interesting, because when I read an OP that's about a social faux pas they are worrying about, I can easily put myself into their position and can give a near enough accurate response.

To be honest, I come here a lot to express the Aspie or ADHD part of myself. In my offline/everyday life I keep quiet about my AS or ADHD or whatever I have, and so I come here and express myself, anonymously, to other Aspies. So sorry if my posts all seem ''me, me, me''. I'm not generally like that in real life. In fact, in real life, I have actually ''faked it til I made it''. So now I feel more NT in the NT world, and forget that I'm an Aspie, and I feel like some of my symptoms have disappeared, but there's still a bit of awkwardness and lots of anxiety in me that I do tell close relatives and friends and my partner about, but I still like to come here and express myself.


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24 Jul 2016, 4:41 pm

Do you think I had a picnic of a life? Most of my life, I got no support other than financial and I can't do squat with money as I think many things are not worth buying in the first place. Money can't buy happiness or people you understand yourself well with. I had to find my own solutions while others got babied their whole life and now cannot make it on their own as adults. So just because you have it rough doesn't automatically make you overreactionary towards any statement. It is more likely that when someone lived in an echo chamber or never left their room that they become sensitive to varying world views. If someone never made an effort to make a friend, even though they wanted one so badly, then I find that pathetic or the persons environment pathetic for not trying to build self esteem. Truly I'd help people who want a friend, but if people do not cooperate or show no effort, then it is their loss. To date, out of the dozen aspies I have met in person and offered friendship to, eleven either were abusive or tried to use me. I am still baffled at the amount of people who think you are some kind of dumbass. Luckily, I let things slide more than I used to because I used to not let people mess with me and showed some payback. NTs are different, unless they are paranoid. NTs are either obsessed with relationships and neglect you because they have a needy girlfriend or they just want to go get wasted. Yes, not all are like that but in my experience many have been.



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24 Jul 2016, 5:10 pm

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25 Jul 2016, 9:28 pm

I think super sensitive people are really sensitive when others complain about their traits that annoy others, they can't handle criticism due to the sensitivity.
Less sensitive people usually say who cares, take it or leave it.


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25 Jul 2016, 9:37 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
I think super sensitive people are really sensitive when others complain about their traits that annoy others, they can't handle criticism due to the sensitivity. Less sensitive people usually say who cares, take it or leave it.

I guess i'm somewhere between less sensitive and more sensitive, mebbe it swings back and forth like an unsecured gate in the wind.



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25 Jul 2016, 10:06 pm

This is why I say that nobody can lock up in an argument like two Aspies. The worst NT political fight doesn't come close to two Aspies who are completely convinced and uncompromising in their contradicting opinions. It's as bad as a severely NT person feeling hurt and an AS person feeling belittled at the same time - zero positive communication.

The solution? Hate the site. Get used to it. Blame it on AS. Get it out of your system, and attribute it to where the person is coming from, as in their mindset. They don't hate you personally. They are just who they are, same way that you are who you are and you expect acceptance anyway.


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25 Jul 2016, 10:49 pm

old_comedywriter wrote:
This is why I say that nobody can lock up in an argument like two Aspies. The worst NT political fight doesn't come close to two Aspies who are completely convinced and uncompromising in their contradicting opinions. It's as bad as a severely NT person feeling hurt and an AS person feeling belittled at the same time - zero positive communication.


NTs seem less inclined to believe their opinions are facts, for one thing. Everyone here talks about how aspies are "more logical". I call BS on that.


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25 Jul 2016, 10:52 pm

AJisHere wrote:
I call BS on that.

understatement of the year


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26 Jul 2016, 5:14 am

Anagram, how about being more explanatory. Your last two posts have been short statements that expect people to just get it.



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26 Jul 2016, 5:50 am

AJisHere wrote:
NTs seem less inclined to believe their opinions are facts, for one thing. Everyone here talks about how aspies are "more logical". I call BS on that.

I think it's because of the Theory of Mind issues autistic people struggle with. Accepting a challenge to our viewpoint is like accepting a challenge to our reality. Autistics tend to become obsessed with other people accepting their point of view, I think to try to replace the absent natural connection that NTs have.



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26 Jul 2016, 6:20 am

Aniihya wrote:
Anagram, how about being more explanatory. Your last two posts have been short statements that expect people to just get it.

yes, i know, i do that on purpose, but it's not meant to be self-explanatory, it's meant to be cryptic. i think some things are better conveyed by forcing the reader to ask themselves what is meant by something, because i see thoughtful reflection as being exactly what is missing

the irony that i meant is that the ones here who have stated that they are unstable are actually sounding pretty calm and rational to me, while you don't seem to be (disclaimer, btw: i'm not saying i am. i do have my emotionally unstable moments for sure). and that's exactly what you were complaining about in the first place. you seem to be overreacting about people overreacting, even when they're not. the way i see it, your high expectations are playing tricks on you, and separating your flaws from other people's flaws, when they're actually quite similar

and one thing i have noticed which seems to be a consistent pattern is that the more someone verbalizes that they are exceptionally logical and rational, the more they are controlled by emotions they are unaware of


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26 Jul 2016, 8:16 am

MissAlgernon wrote:
In my personal experience, this is more a characteristic of all large forums. All of them are an eternal fight between trolls, excessively sensitive members and a small minority of more rational people sandwiched in the middle of that, to various degrees. I haven't discovered any exception to this kind of structure, it seems universal.

Oh, you've found the structure, now the question is: how do we exploit it? (sorry, human nature joke)



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26 Jul 2016, 9:12 am

LOL....Just listen to the rational people, and ignore the trolls.