My counselour says I'm delusional b/c I'm Muslim
Hey, Dossa! It's funny, it was the other way round for me... when I was a wiccan, my counsellor was fine with it. When I became Christian, everyone looked at me funny... It made me laugh when I thought about it, everyone loved me as a witch, and were prepared to burn me at the stake as a Christian.
Maybe it's the fact of change, or conversion that bothers people? On an individual basis you are always going to get people who have their own personal prejudices (against paganism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, whatever...) But change seems to be what really freaks people out.
Most non pagans don't have a clear idea about what a pagan path implies. I've met adult, articulate, intelligent people, who honestly think that pagans are into animal sacrifice and black masses. Maybe your counsellor was similarly misinformed?
And similarly, perhaps it's the fact that the OP is looking to convert that is ringing alarm bells in his counsellors head. (MY advice to the OP still stands, run for the hills!)
I am a white male of European decent who was raised in a catholic family and I am currently living with my parents. I am very interested in Islam and I would like to learn about it. My counselor says most Muslims are wannabe terrorists. This is far from the truth, Islam itself is a peaceful religion, there are just some bad apples out there. When I get interested in Islam my counselor says it is because I am having delusions.
Now I realize many people on WP will disagree with my choice, most of us a white people of European decent in the U.S., Australia, U.K., and Canada, so we tend to have been raised by christian or secular families, but us autistics despite lacking empathy, have a good moral understanding of an individuals right to make personal choices and have them respected.
I guess I need to stand up to my counselor about this issue.
I see you're in the US. The law gives you the right to sue. You could even get this counselor fired if he works for a public agency. If he is belittling your choice of religion, then dump him would be my first suggestion, and file a complaint with his employer. Your location says "Michigan" where there are whole cities comprised of Muslim immigrants. You really need to speak out. This is not legal. The counselor can not tell you AS A COUNSELOR that Muslims are terrorists and evil. If he does it on the clock, and belittles your interest in Islam on the clock, then it is illegal.
May I please point out that not all Christians think that religion and science are contradictory? The entire concept that they could contradict each other seems kinda silly to me.
My AP biology teacher was very Catholic, so perhaps I have an odd perspective, but I don't see how there's really any contradiction at all. (And if you'd like another such example, check out Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series.. there's a great reconciliation of the evolution vs. creation debate in And Eternity.)
One of my biology teacher's favorite sayings was "Isn't that amazing?! God must have gone to Villanova!" (The line was a joke.. but the point was that all that stuff that we were learning, it was God that came up with it to begin with.)
Um, no, it's not. A "devout Muslim" would be one who prays five times a day, follows the diet, etc. That's extremely different from being an extremist..
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Religions and different faiths are like socks and undiewear--a change keeps you feeling fresh.
It is also a personal decision to choose one's religion (or not), and being free to do so.
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I just found this, so i dont know what to think now. My biggest slam has been disputed.
Adribu (Arabic root – daraba)
The word translated as slap/hit/beat derives from the Arabic root daraba. In fact, daraba can be translated in over a hundred different ways, including to separate, to part, to set out (on the road), to shroud (in darkness), to mint (a coin), to publish (a book), to cover (as in ladies’ dress), to dispatch, to throw, to raise, and many more - and translators of the Qur’an and commentators on it have always had trouble with this word.
The notion that daraba means ‘to strike’ in 4.34 is really founded upon two debatable grounds – that the hadiths Abu Dawud 2141 and Mishkat al-Masabih 0276 used it in this way, and that it was the prejudice and environment of the early commentators on the Qur’an that led them to assume that the meaning ‘to strike’ was the most likely of all the possible interpretations.
As it happens, words derived from this same root occur no less than 58 times in the Qur’an, and are used in different contexts in ways that can be ambiguous and open to widely different translations into English. In none of these other places is it used or translated in the sense of to hit, strike or beat.
Perhaps most interesting of all is the use of the word to mean ‘to have sexual intercourse’. The Lisan al-Arab quotes the phrase ‘darab al-fahl an-naqah’ – ‘the stud camel covered the she-camel’.
In the context of Surah 4.34, I feel we are faced with a choice of three main possibilities; the first is that it did give the husband the right to hit his wife; secondly, the most appropriate meaning of the word would surely be ‘to separate’ or ‘to part’ – in which case the entire notion of a man having rights to beat his wife becomes irrelevant. The third most appropriate meaning would be ‘to return to normal life’ which in this context would certainly imply the meaning of ‘to return to having normal sexual relations’.
If a husband had descended to the level of beating his wife, the divorce proceeding would most probably become inevitable, and any possibility of a process of reconciliation (as outlined in Surah 4.35, the next verse) wiped out.
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Maybe you should explain to her what Jihad REALLY MEANS. It's NOT a holy war, that is the last resort. It's simply telling your faith to people. And it's the same as Baptists do when they want you to get saved. The media has spun Islam and Jihad and all facets of it to be the enemy. It's NOT. Tell her learn something and THEN get back to you.
Religions are my thing.
1. You don't look white.
2. Why Islam!? Don't tell me you're drawn to it because it's so "peaceful". If you want to prey five times a day because a paedophile said to, be my guest.
3. I think you are crazy.
P.S. Don't forget you can't eat pork or get drunk anymore. Oh, and don't forget to kill some Jews while you're at it, for Jews and Americans are the enemies of Islam ![]()
I learned the hard way councelors are not really there to help and you should keep as much to yourself as possible. That was the way I finally "cured" my so called "aspergers" lol. (or at least the social ineptitude part)
Actaully, I do not ever remember discussing God or religion with my therapist. It just was not something I obsessed on I guess at the time I was seeing them.
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I would not agree with your counselor.
I also do not agree with your view of Islam being peaceful. This would need to have peaceful defined perhaps.
The view of females which is clearly stated in the Quran is enough to know it can not be of peace if equality is sought. It is only peaceful if males are ok with always being superior to females (the perception of) and females are willing to be considered feeble to that of males. This does not factor in a few other negative associations with being a female.
The list goes on and on and on.
What do you mean by get interested?
To an extent I agree.
The individual has a right to make personal choices, but there is a flaw with this reasoning due to the nature of beliefs.
A persons beliefs determine how they interact with the world/society.
If a persons beliefs bring them to lets say murder abortion doctors, feeling they are defending themselves and the fetus, it's clear there are limits.
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Sounds from this like some more communication and clarification is in order before deciding whether to dump the counselor or not.
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Maybe it's the fact of change, or conversion that bothers people? On an individual basis you are always going to get people who have their own personal prejudices (against paganism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, whatever...) But change seems to be what really freaks people out.
Most non pagans don't have a clear idea about what a pagan path implies. I've met adult, articulate, intelligent people, who honestly think that pagans are into animal sacrifice and black masses. Maybe your counsellor was similarly misinformed?
And similarly, perhaps it's the fact that the OP is looking to convert that is ringing alarm bells in his counsellors head. (MY advice to the OP still stands, run for the hills!)
Heh heh heh. I mean, it is not funny that people reacted poorly to your conversion, but it is. I can appreciate the humor in that.
I think you are right. I had not thought about this in that way... maybe it is the change that is ringing alarms, rather than the religion itself. Whenever someone does have a sudden change, people often react poorly. It is too bad, really.
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