I must go, and not come back.(my death)

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lying or not, id say hes not in the best of places right now either way and maybe people should just let it go or ignore it? its not hard

Even if he was posing as his mom, WTF is it to you?

The writing styles a pretty different so I doubt that Ackman is posing as his mom for attention. Hopefully Ackman will get the help he needs and hopefully you will get some anger management counseling too. I have never seen a post of yours that isn't flaming something or someone.

1. The writing styles are EXTREMELY similar
2. You obviously haven't seen many of my posts.

What is your problem with Ackman anyway?

Xenu, it is against the rules to do what you are doing in the Haven. there are plenty of other parts of the board where you can express opinions, The Haven is for support only. Im surprised you are doing this as sooner or later one of the mods is going to see that you are breaking the rules of the Haven.

Okay I apologize for breaking the Haven. But I am just frustrated with the fact that he is obviously lying and that you guys don't realize that. Anyways I am done with this thread as I do not want to be banned, I just wish that the members here would open their eyes and see this.

And yes I understand that Ackman is obviously depressed and he posed as his mother to hopefully get some more attention/help from us but that is not the way to go about doing it.

Ackman I apologize for being to harsh but please realize that what you are doing is not the way to get sympathy from this forum.

Xenu is being the classic insecure teenager, and Delirium is (and was) simply being a bi†ch. They are the reason why this thread took the turn it did, not Ackman.

I don't really believe that Ackman's mom has been posting, but that is beside the point of this thread. The point is that a few individuals have been compromising the accepting nature of the art board, and now the haven. I would be pissed off too if I posted some work I'd been devoting my time to, only to get a bunch of smug replies about how much it sucks. Not constructive criticism, mind you, but outright bi†chy complaints like I saw in the Ackman art thread. If he doesn't want to accept certain criticisms on his art, that is his choice. Leave what you gave him and move on; don't start shooting him down.

Zen mistress is right, the Haven is not the place to bash someone. A while back when I was having more personal issues myself, I was politely contacted by a moderator for this very thing. Contributing negativity to an already depressed person's thread. I've since tried to watch out for myself doing that, and I think others should do the same. I won't be surprised if certain people here get a PM.

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Ok, I will agree with you there. However, it didn't warrant the replies I was seeing in here.

I woke up this morning and was shocked about what I read in this thread.
I cannot believe how people would attack someone who is in his most depressive state. Seriously, if you want to attack someone who is about to kill himself, then get out of the Haven. People like this is not welcome in the Haven.

What the truth is, isn't important. The important thing is that he is brave enough to seek for help.
I don't see the problem of attention-seeking either, most of us here has been attention-seeker sometimes. Myself, for example, I would turn into an attention-seeker when I'm seriously about to kill myself. What I want to see if there's any care for me in this world...that people care enough about me, value enough about me.

It does not matter who is "Ackman", himself, or his parents. It does not matter.

What matters is our response. It's our care and support.

Please, this is the haven, support only. People here are looking for support, not more negatives or verbal abuse.

And for Ackman,
I believe what you said. And I understand how much being trusted means to someone, espeicially someone on the edge of suicide. Please please please don't give up your life. You are so precious. You don't have reply to those attacking replies here. You do not need to justify yourself to them. It's useless. They're not here to support you. Put your mind on the ones who support you here on WP, and your parents, they love you every much.

We don't know each others much but I can feel what you're going through. It's painful. But you can fight it, and heal it. You have my support Ackman!

Much Love and Care,
Melbi

Xenu: The way you approached the subject matter was incorrect. Becoming that frustrated with any depressed person does not solve a lot. Keep it civil and do not fly off the handle again. I have read through this entire thread and the Ackman art thread as well.

I already apologized but I will apologize again for overreacting and going off the handle. I was just trying to tell Ackman that isn't the way to get the attention he wants. I did in incorrectly though.

ackman.

look into getting some serious help. Fiction is great! but man, i hope you know it isnt real. please talk to a psychologist and a doctor. perhaps your parents.

you really need it. this isnt about drama or anything else anymore. you need help.

Ackman, if you're there, I'll just say what I said in your other thread here. Negative or not you are drawing a lot of attention and it would just be best to take it all as an honor.

Ackman, you poor thing. I am your friend, so you are wanted here. Cheer up and get some help.

Ackman, I know how you feel. I tried hanging myself before. All it got me was a night in the psychiatric ward and a crapload of drugs that null my creativity. It has absolutely no merit.

NEVER GIVE UP! You have friends and relatives who will miss you dearly if you are gone.

To live is to fight, to die is to surrender