How do I convince my 8 year old sister to remain cute?

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01 Dec 2016, 7:35 pm

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My point is that maybe you don't see your behaviour as a problem, but obviously everyone else around you does and that leads me to think you're not seeing your own behaviour very clearly. If you were being youthful but not immature and irresponsible and nasty, then it wouldn't be such a problem for other people. If everyone around you is telling you your behaviour is a problem, then it might be time to re-examine your behaviour and learn the difference between youthfulness and immaturity.

I'm not a nasty person

Shahunshah wrote:
You are avoiding the question I was posing before.

Why is it good for you to keep telling your sister she is cute when she doesn't like it?, its obviously embarrasing her.

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Immature people would still want to be my friend. Unfortunately, social workers are influencing immature people to mature and always succeeds. Also, ........, the person from my camp 2 years ago stopped liking me the second he matured. I actually did everything I could to still be his friend but he made it hard for me. All this because he matured. If this is how mature people act, why should I act mature as well? This is also why I need a way, fast, to convince Cutie to remain cute. If I don't, she will start being mean to me and start bossing me around.


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01 Dec 2016, 7:37 pm

EphraimB wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
My point is that maybe you don't see your behaviour as a problem, but obviously everyone else around you does and that leads me to think you're not seeing your own behaviour very clearly. If you were being youthful but not immature and irresponsible and nasty, then it wouldn't be such a problem for other people. If everyone around you is telling you your behaviour is a problem, then it might be time to re-examine your behaviour and learn the difference between youthfulness and immaturity.

I'm not a nasty person

Shahunshah wrote:
You are avoiding the question I was posing before.

Why is it good for you to keep telling your sister she is cute when she doesn't like it?, its obviously embarrasing her.

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Immature people would still want to be my friend. Unfortunately, social workers are influencing immature people to mature and always succeeds. Also, ........., the person from my camp 2 years ago stopped liking me the second he matured. I actually did everything I could to still be his friend but he made it hard for me. All this because he matured. If this is how mature people act, why should I act mature as well? This is also why I need a way, fast, to convince Cutie to remain cute. If I don't, she will start being mean to me and start bossing me around.
That's not what maturity does to you. People don't start bossing you around because they are more developed. They may be more independent but that is about it.

We are also not saying your nasty. But the problem is if you don't look into your behavior you could be doing bad things to others without realizing it. Tell me why do people around you sometimes get annoyed with you?



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01 Dec 2016, 8:18 pm

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That's not what maturity does to you. People don't start bossing you around because they are more developed. They may be more independent but that is about it.

............, who was a very good friend of mine, stopped liking me the second he matured.

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...Tell me why do people around you sometimes get annoyed with you?

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01 Dec 2016, 8:22 pm

EphraimB wrote:
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That's not what maturity does to you. People don't start bossing you around because they are more developed. They may be more independent but that is about it.


[/quote]Maybe this idea that he matured and then simply rejected you out of spite might be your perception. I might not be but it could be. Their might be more complicated reasons for why he stopped being your friend.

From the looks of it sounds as though some people were really annoyed with you for particular reasons. Do you have any idea what that might be?

I think the problem might be your behavior not there's.



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01 Dec 2016, 8:27 pm

Shahunshah wrote:
Maybe this idea that he matured and then simply rejected you out of spite might be your perception. I might not be but it could be. Their might be more complicated reasons for why he stopped being your friend.

But the second he matured????


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01 Dec 2016, 8:29 pm

EphraimB wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Maybe this idea that he matured and then simply rejected you out of spite might be your perception. I might not be but it could be. Their might be more complicated reasons for why he stopped being your friend.

But the second he matured????
That could be the case. But I am not sure whether it as simple as that. Maybe you had some behaviors he didn't like?

If so many people are calling you abrasive they could well have a reason as that word is not used lightly.



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01 Dec 2016, 8:31 pm

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That could be the case. But I am not sure whether it as simple as that. Maybe you had some behaviors he didn't like?

That's not possible. He was my friend for a whole year before he matured and rejected me.


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01 Dec 2016, 8:35 pm

EphraimB wrote:
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That could be the case. But I am not sure whether it as simple as that. Maybe you had some behaviors he didn't like?

That's not possible. He was my friend for a whole year before he matured and rejected me.
It is possible. In many cases people try to make the friendship work before rejecting them.

Think about yourself EphraimB was their any behaviors you did that others didn't like?



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01 Dec 2016, 9:03 pm

You really should not be posting people's full names and locations/places on employment without their permission.


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02 Dec 2016, 2:11 am

Moderator note:

OP you must stop doing this immediately. It violates the privacy of other people. You can describe what happened but not in ways that identify other parties you have encountered in the past in real life. They are not public figures with an existing public profile that makes commentary a natural event and they have not consented to be identified on an international forum by you. This is unacceptable on Wrong Planet, thread will be locked if you continue to do this, so please stop now.



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02 Dec 2016, 2:16 am

EphraimB wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Maybe this idea that he matured and then simply rejected you out of spite might be your perception. I might not be but it could be. Their might be more complicated reasons for why he stopped being your friend.

But the second he matured????


Maturity isn't a switch. You don't go from one state to another in seconds. It's a slow process that happens throughout your life. So there won't be a 'second' anyone matured.



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02 Dec 2016, 2:45 am

Everyone has a right to be as cute or un-cute as they want. Trying to pressure a young girl to fit your standards of "cuteness" is a bit unsettling, I think, and tells me that you should be more mindful about consent and the right to personal identity.



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02 Dec 2016, 6:17 am

EphraimB wrote:
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Well ask yourself a question, Ephraim why should you make your sister cute when it goes against her will?
Why should social workers, psychologists, and even society make me mature, "grow up", toughen up, etc. when it goes against my will.
Well if you don't like people making you do things against your will, why make her do something against her will?


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02 Dec 2016, 6:22 am

Seriously, I realize this is in The Haven and all, but nobody should be forcing someone to "remain cute." Every person has the right to grow up, be a serious person not just "a cute thing."

I have to ask "what the heck????" What you're asking to do here is very questionable.

You have no right to demand that someone you think is "cute" should not develop themselves into something more substantial than just "cute."

I find it very hard not to think of the T word, seeing this thread.



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02 Dec 2016, 10:11 am

BirdInFlight wrote:
Seriously, I realize this is in The Haven and all, but nobody should be forcing someone to "remain cute." Every person has the right to grow up, be a serious person not just "a cute thing."

I have to ask "what the heck????" What you're asking to do here is very questionable.

You have no right to demand that someone you think is "cute" should not develop themselves into something more substantial than just "cute."

I find it very hard not to think of the T word, seeing this thread.


I agree. It might be hard to hear, but what you are doing is abusive behavior. I've seen something similar in my dad; I resent him and refuse to talk to him because he tried to change who I am. People aren't dolls. This behavior will not end well. Let your sister be herself.



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02 Dec 2016, 5:16 pm

Alright, so take a little advice from the cutest robot on earth.I have a lot of maturity, and yet, there are people who still consider me cute. One of my most mature friends, even mentioned I was being cute one day, and we are still good friends.

I'm 32, mature, and I'm sometimes whimsically cute even after all these years.

Have you not noticed that cute kids look even more cute when they are trying to act mature and adult.

The real issue is that you are being ignorant as to what maturity really is. And you are being very selfish by trying to force your way on to your sister. You are acting in the same way as the people you despise, in that sense.

You want control over people and your surroundings. And you will be miserable until you learn to let go. It is the truth.

I know I am being most blunt here, but I have to call a spade a spade.

Regardless, I'm certain your sister will continue to be cute even with maturity.


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