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11 Feb 2018, 6:08 am

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...I think I have been very determined in trying to keep walking. As I said??, once I'm pretty determined trotting along. I believe there's been suggestion here and elsewhere that I get a wheelchair (I've mentioned/pondered it myself.). I think others with the same amount of physical distress as I might have tried hard to get one.

leson"]Are you out of the hospital now? I know you have CHF and have had most of your toes amputated, but what handicap(s) do you have that make it hard to get up from the floor, or to pick things up? I have arthritis among other things, but I fight hard to maintain my physical independence. I didn’t always and used a walker or cane for a long time. I don’t use them now unless really tired and sore. I’ve worked hard at it and now teach exercise classes to other seniors. Being able to get up and down, even using assistive equipment like a crutch or cane is one of the most important life skills to maintain. I know you mentioned when you were really bloated with fluid retention, you needed help getting up from the toilet at times. It’s nice to be able to take care of yourself.
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You're quite right... keep walking with as little use of walking aids if possible and keep out of the wheelchair as long as you can. For myself, I'm not heavy at all but I have mobility problems due to peripheral neuropathy. I can't get off the floor unaided. Repeat... I can't get off the floor... I haven't got the strength in my legs. If any is reading this and thinks that it just requires a bit more effort or maybe a bit more moral fibre... then count yourselves lucky that it's not an issue for you.


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11 Feb 2018, 9:54 am

Trueno wrote:
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...I think I have been very determined in trying to keep walking. As I said??, once I'm pretty determined trotting along. I believe there's been suggestion here and elsewhere that I get a wheelchair (I've mentioned/pondered it myself.). I think others with the same amount of physical distress as I might have tried hard to get one.

leson"]Are you out of the hospital now? I know you have CHF and have had most of your toes amputated, but what handicap(s) do you have that make it hard to get up from the floor, or to pick things up? I have arthritis among other things, but I fight hard to maintain my physical independence. I didn’t always and used a walker or cane for a long time. I don’t use them now unless really tired and sore. I’ve worked hard at it and now teach exercise classes to other seniors. Being able to get up and down, even using assistive equipment like a crutch or cane is one of the most important life skills to maintain. I know you mentioned when you were really bloated with fluid retention, you needed help getting up from the toilet at times. It’s nice to be able to take care of yourself.



You're quite right... keep walking with as little use of walking aids if possible and keep out of the wheelchair as long as you can. For myself, I'm not heavy at all but I have mobility problems due to peripheral neuropathy. I can't get off the floor unaided. Repeat... I can't get off the floor... I haven't got the strength in my legs. If any is reading this and thinks that it just requires a bit more effort or maybe a bit more moral fibre... then count yourselves lucky that it's not an issue for you.[/quote]

I was wondering if there was a bit more to his difficulty in getting up. I had forgotten about the possibility of neuropathy. He is diabetic and that is definitely one of the side effects. I wonder if he would be allowed a chair or stool beside his sleeping spot to help him get up.



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11 Feb 2018, 9:58 am

I agree with that.

But maybe, for long distances, a wheelchair might be better.

He seems to have to stop every block or so to catch his breath.



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12 Feb 2018, 5:17 am

...Yes, I have/have had neuropathy, too. Now in this room, there is a problem with transportation. The bus to/fro here stops very early. I mean like 6PM. And on Sunday morning the bus did not start til' after 12 noon. So, to get to 10:30 AM church service, I needed a taxi. as'veneers a taxi to get back from downtown both Fri. and Sun.I ad a large Ladd, icldng groceries eachtjmd.I'm a pretty generous tipper. Espec. as I got help with putting groceries in the axis - and the second time the tip got me help volunteered to take it further to my doorstep.
After losing the pubs I trashea when I left the hospital I more or less stopped getting new heavy pubs to keep- but even for to-throw-away, I've hardly really read t&e Sun. Santa Cruz newspaper and the Fri. national New York times I bought myself !s a treat (Boy, I'm a fun person, ain't I? :lol: ) at all. The two unfinished novels I've dragged since the Rehab are sti)l unfinished. I might need to stay hers even longer to finish them and finish the tons of beverages (including one beer I bought Friday and haven't opened) and bit of frozen food (there's a mickwave but I'Ve no microwave cooking equipment used an inner bag from one as a cooking plate) and the couple unfinished books I've &upped along since the rehab :( .
I did get a fair bit of money piled up from the weeks in l'bopital but I'm soendinv it. I got shoes fir one and need at least one more panfs and maybe a full ndw packags of underwear and maybe undershirt too -but that would sure be a tot to carry :( !
However, I am nabe, however I may romantisiz it, too ok to b " romantically " homeless by more. However, a not-complaing floor cot shelter space and carrying my stuff !round all day, as I guess Om wants??, wishew would be pretty straining also. I don't have hoojt!k stuff cooking bland for me, so, yes, my access to " healthy " food might be limited. If I ate at a charity situation lo-cal might be rare also. I'd need to go really Johnny Applseed HL nd somehow boil canned things in the hills or at a private room and cooking ability somewhere- and a $take ^ ability to set it up with the $take.
It take I long to get things packed away !nd m undressed when I get back and them I"m caught up with what I can type on this phone and straining my eyes?? Look for the slowness of this phone (sometimes arbitrarily frozen/ won't Internet-connect) - Starting after either the phrase 6AM or 10:l:30 AM above - til I wrote " internet-connect " above - it took 7p minutes or so :( . No wonder there's so many things I never get doneedone and I don't read much " real " stuff :cry: !


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12 Feb 2018, 7:03 am

I hope you get an actual bed soon after you get the floor mat space,

If you go to church, you shouldn’t curse so much.



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12 Feb 2018, 7:43 am

...I don'ydon't think sO cursed at all there, and I don't think sO curse much.
Where?????????


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12 Feb 2018, 10:29 am

I never believe that you would ever curse in church. You're not a crazy guy.

Sometimes, when you get mad, you curse on here, though.

I guess we all do, at times.



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12 Feb 2018, 2:18 pm

@ASS-P - Hopefully you'll find the time to start going to the library in Santa Cruz to use their computers. This should be much better than typing long letters on your phone.



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12 Feb 2018, 5:43 pm

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...Both.
I am in the cheap motel NIW. I paid for two extra days on.top of the four free, this will let me leave Thursdsay instead of Tuesday. Maybe Inc do a couple of " setting things up " then without having carry thing around with me, getting signed up for programs at the HTC and getting that letter so I can start the credit union account. I tell myself to check out the possibility if sleeping at the tolerated HL encampment that's at San Lorenzo Park now, Any number if Santa Cruz Sentinel stories covering it.
Leaving the hospital, they wouldn't keep a few thing even ultra-briefly, and I had to throw out some closes and most of my books. Do I hear applause and " WHOOPEE! " coming from above the 48th Paralell?


I don't understand why you had to throw these things out. You were carrying them in bags or something like that before entering the hospital yes?


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12 Feb 2018, 5:47 pm

It’s hard on ASS-P. I don’t believe he wanted to throw those things out.



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12 Feb 2018, 6:00 pm

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It’s hard on ASS-P. I don’t believe he wanted to throw those things out.


Well, of course no hospital is going to let anyone store anything there for any length of time. Its a hospital, not a Self Storage place.


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12 Feb 2018, 8:21 pm

He carries all kinds of paper and crap around with him.



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13 Feb 2018, 2:14 am

...Otherwise known as " MY POSSESSIONS "! !! !! !! !! !! :x


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13 Feb 2018, 5:46 am

If I didn't have a place to store things, I'd only carry absolute essentials in a backpack.



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13 Feb 2018, 6:39 am

...What are " absolute essentials " if you're sleeping outside? When it's cold? And it might rain? And you have to change your clothes upon occasion?


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My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!


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13 Feb 2018, 11:22 am

...Now I will talk about relating to potential problems I anticipate if the shelter here is mats-on-floor like the earlier shelter here in SC.A stool or chair by me might not be enough to easily get up of it is not quite large and really heavily secured. Mats tend to be close. It"s as dark as it can reasonably get. It might be insisted that I wear foot coverings, and on a slick gum floor. I tend to grunt a bit when I get up, maybe, nd I definitely, when I"ve almost fallen down??, grunted " Uh!! " instoctovely, which helps right me and keep me from falling.
I'll likely have to go to to the bathroom during a night there (and there's generally nowhere to go but your cot, certainly later on. I'd have to go to the bathroom during the night, clothed? as I anticipate being, more than once. I will now use euphimistic words, not " proper " Greek/ Latin-etc. medical words, to avoid offending the hyper-sensitive. My - masculine area - is now not swollen as before. In this room I sleep - nonclothed '- make my way to the - place of elimination - in the dark, stepping sometimes uncertainly. When I - #1 ' Ostand fairly close, over the bowl, to try and have it hit the mark. My ma, when it #2, does not tend to stand up and push #1 out super forcefully, I,d likely to wash less there. I probably?? get OCD about my am out of washing up afterward, but I think I might not be able to wash up there enough, and my clothes could overly get smelly. I have few clothes. If I must carry around all day, too...Well, let's wait now and see if you-know-who replies I'm disgusting :x :evil: :( !


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One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.:-(
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!