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14 Aug 2011, 10:06 pm

Saturday night, all of the bars and clubs were just packed. I was very discouraged to say the least. There was no breathing room, no seats, and I am very inexperienced with bars to begin with.

I really had to say "don't give a s**t" hundreds of times just to go.

I found 1 bar that wasn't over populated and actually ordered a beer. I saw a girl that I kind of met before but didn't really know. I said hi and asked her if she didn't mind if I joined her. She said not at all, she was waiting for her boyfriend and a friend.

I talked to her for a little bit, but it was pretty weird. I only knew her from riding the bus, so I didn't have much to talk about. The only thing in common was we both went to the same school. She is still going there, and I haven't attended for 2 years when I dropped out. Oddly enough I never had her in any of classes or anything but what I can tell is she just sees me as some guy from school. Weird

After it got a little awkward or maybe over weird....my timing is bad......Maybe too soon or too late, I excused myself said "cheers" and left. I finished the beer by myself outside and walked around. I didn't want to stick around and have to explain myself when her boyfriend showed up so I figured I would leave. Maybe just maybe I can actually have fun not care, and meet new people and network.....but not that night

I just ended up kind of walking around the whole night. It was one of the loneliest nights of my life.

I just can't explain the kind of anxiety that washes over me, when I enter a bar, filled with people, lights, the atmosphere. It is so intimidating. And it isn't a big guy "Im going to beat you up" intimidation. I just can't explain it. I cant explain the nervousness that washes over me. Its been with me my whole life.

So yeah that was my lonely depressing night. Reminded me of high school when I felt alone as f**k with no friends all by myself all the time.

ANd yet Im going to go again and try it again next week. We Will see. I don't care anymore about bein "alone" in public.



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14 Aug 2011, 10:42 pm

Good on you for going in there and pushing past your anxiety. I couldn't have managed it, I wouldn't be comfortable at all even if I was with a bunch of people I knew, so I know what you mean.

Even though you felt lonely afterwards, it's still better than sitting at home lonely and not trying to do anything about it, go out there next week and I'm sure you'll get used to it all in time. :)



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14 Aug 2011, 10:47 pm

It's not proper for anybody to be in a bar by themself, man or woman. Do you hae any friens that you can go with?


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14 Aug 2011, 11:33 pm

I had a similar experience when I was about your age. (about 16 years ago). I went to a bar by myself, hoping, praying to find a girlfriend. A girl noticed me and came up and starting talking to me.

She put her hand in my front pocket and 'felt me'. She said she'd do more if I bought her a few drinks. I did, she had used me to get free drinks, I left and wandered around all night by myself in the cold- it was winter.

I met my wife at work, she was a single mom with a disabled child. We've been married 15 years now and she gave me two daughters. My advise to you, don't be too picky with who you date, but don't give in to desperation either. Live within the realm of the possible, ordinary girls make excellent wives. Try dating agencies, you might meet someone special, ask someone out from work or college- its always a risk, sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't.

Its hard, I've been there, best wishes and good luck.


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15 Aug 2011, 12:03 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
It's not proper for anybody to be in a bar by themself, man or woman. Do you hae any friens that you can go with?


Really? How so?



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15 Aug 2011, 12:08 am

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Good on you for going in there and pushing past your anxiety. I couldn't have managed it, I wouldn't be comfortable at all even if I was with a bunch of people I knew, so I know what you mean.

Even though you felt lonely afterwards, it's still better than sitting at home lonely and not trying to do anything about it, go out there next week and I'm sure you'll get used to it all in time. :)


Lonely and uncomfortable, are giant understatements. I am just sick of my life, that I want to get out there.

Im not trying to find a wife or praying to find a girlfriend, but it would be nice to meet some girls and maybe... I mean besides that, I am clueless or where to go or how.

I am not in school, and even when I was, I just didn't have "it".

I have been dateless and sexless my whole life, so Im trying get out of my bubble.

I'm trying to not be desperate, but walking around town by myself doesn't look good.



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15 Aug 2011, 2:11 am

I went to a bar a couple of times, but only with friends. I always just stick to them like glue. Overall, though, I find it very uncomfortable. The last time I just stood there staring at everyone else doing their social things. I had no idea how to start a conversation with anyone, and it was so incredibly loud. I think I fully understand your anxiety, and you were alone, too. At least when you're with friends you have someone to talk to and you don't feel as awkward.

I'm happy I did it, from a philosophical viewpoint (I feel like I should at least know what I'm missing) but I'm not going to do it again.


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15 Aug 2011, 2:22 am

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Saturday night, all of the bars and clubs were just packed. I was very discouraged to say the least. There was no breathing room, no seats, and I am very inexperienced with bars to begin with.

I really had to say "don't give a sh**" hundreds of times just to go.

I found 1 bar that wasn't over populated and actually ordered a beer. I saw a girl that I kind of met before but didn't really know. I said hi and asked her if she didn't mind if I joined her. She said not at all, she was waiting for her boyfriend and a friend.

I talked to her for a little bit, but it was pretty weird. I only knew her from riding the bus, so I didn't have much to talk about. The only thing in common was we both went to the same school. She is still going there, and I haven't attended for 2 years when I dropped out. Oddly enough I never had her in any of classes or anything but what I can tell is she just sees me as some guy from school. Weird

After it got a little awkward or maybe over weird....my timing is bad......Maybe too soon or too late, I excused myself said "cheers" and left. I finished the beer by myself outside and walked around. I didn't want to stick around and have to explain myself when her boyfriend showed up so I figured I would leave. Maybe just maybe I can actually have fun not care, and meet new people and network.....but not that night

I just ended up kind of walking around the whole night. It was one of the loneliest nights of my life.

I just can't explain the kind of anxiety that washes over me, when I enter a bar, filled with people, lights, the atmosphere. It is so intimidating. And it isn't a big guy "Im going to beat you up" intimidation. I just can't explain it. I cant explain the nervousness that washes over me. Its been with me my whole life.

So yeah that was my lonely depressing night. Reminded me of high school when I felt alone as f**k with no friends all by myself all the time.

ANd yet Im going to go again and try it again next week. We Will see. I don't care anymore about bein "alone" in public.

should've ended it there

In any case, I don't go out and drink. The kind of girls I'm intrested in meeting wouldn't be ones who drink.


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15 Aug 2011, 6:07 am

first off: congratulations on actually going out, secondly on talking to someone.

*if* i go out, it's usually with friends, and then still i dont really talk, not even to other friends i meet when i lose track of the original group, or, i dont initiate conversation anyway.

i do feel you on the anxiety upon entering the bar, the only real reason i can cope is becouse i am with friends who know me and my sensitivity to those situations; they have 'rescued' me before when i overloaded once.



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15 Aug 2011, 6:25 am

If it helps: I never go out to pubs on my own any more. There's just no interest for me there.

It might be better to have a specific reason to go to a pub rather than "just to go" - if you like the beer they serve, for instance. That's always a good talking point.



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15 Aug 2011, 6:33 am

Tequila wrote:
If it helps: I never go out to pubs on my own any more. There's just no interest for me there.

It might be better to have a specific reason to go to a pub rather than "just to go" - if you like the beer they serve, for instance. That's always a good talking point.


What if you dislike alcoholic beverages?


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15 Aug 2011, 6:39 am

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What if you dislike alcoholic beverages?


There isn't a huge point in going to a bar/pub in that case. Try a café instead which may be easier for you in the Netherlands than in the UK (most cafés in the UK are not coffee type places that open late into the night but more 'greasy spoon' type establishments where people sit for a quick meal).



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15 Aug 2011, 6:43 am

Yeah, thought so. I always took bars/pubs as a nice place to socialise with people first, drink second but experience has made me think it's the other way around.


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15 Aug 2011, 6:45 am

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Yeah, thought so. I always took bars/pubs as a nice place to socialise with people first, drink second but experience has made me think it's the other way around.


No, it's a place where people socialise and largely drink alcoholic beverages. Similar to how people go to a coffee shop where people often go to socialise and largely not drink alcoholic beverages.



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15 Aug 2011, 12:40 pm

Artros wrote:
Tequila wrote:
If it helps: I never go out to pubs on my own any more. There's just no interest for me there.

It might be better to have a specific reason to go to a pub rather than "just to go" - if you like the beer they serve, for instance. That's always a good talking point.


What if you dislike alcoholic beverages?

Some pubs do have great music and nice people to be surrounded with which could be an excuse.

When I went to pubs a couple of years ago with my class mates there was a girl that didnt like alcohol yet she enjoyed the atmosphere and talking to us so she was there every friday(we met there every friday).

Some people thought it was odd but she explained to anyone that asked her that she didnt enjoy the taste of beer but she lovd the music and the people there.


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15 Aug 2011, 3:00 pm

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Some pubs do have great music and nice people to be surrounded with which could be an excuse.


With the obvious proviso that you are getting even more ripped off drinking soft-drinks than you would be drinking actual beer. Providing things like soft drinks is where most pubs make their money, and I'm damned that I'll pay more in a British pub in real terms for a pint of lemonade than I would for a pint of beer - i.e. a glass of watery Pepsi might be £3, whereas a pint of real ale might be £2.80. In British pubs, there is no incentive whatsoever to drinking soft drinks as that might exist in American steakhouses - i.e., unless you're in a Harvester there are no free refills on soft drinks or anything like that for people driving. A lot of rural pubs are dying off because there are frequently no incentives of this kind for drivers.

Some pubs might serve decent coffee, and that might be an avenue on which to go down. Shandy 'looks' like alcohol and is low in alcohol - 2% or less - if you want a real drink. Some places even stock malt-based non-alcoholic 'soft drinks' like Iron Press that look the part. Some milds, if you don't mind alcohol but don't want to get drunk, are low in alcohol (about 3.5%). You'll at least get a bit of a buzz that way without getting drunk too easily on 5% lager, for instance.

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When I went to pubs a couple of years ago with my class mates there was a girl that didnt like alcohol yet she enjoyed the atmosphere and talking to us so she was there every friday(we met there every friday).


This depends on the pub and on the situation, though. In a cosmoplitan pub with plenty of atmosphere I can't see a problem. A woman sat with a load of blokes in an empty, lifeless pub can't really say that she's come for the atmosphere, or if she does she'll look a bit strange.