Ok, I have a huge problem with authority

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How can it be right to worry so much about the idea that a person might do something physical against authority? The authorities are physically and mentally abusive. I suspect that this great "concern" has a lot to do with ideas planted to protect authority.

I live somewhere near the middle of the United States of America. A so-called authority from the county came to my house and made certain that he humiliated me because there was a big branch in the yard, while I was in the yard cutting it up, and made a b***h about the height of the grass. I have photographs of a ruler held in that grass that show that the grass was well within spec, and he just up and started talking about having the county in to mow the yard and charge a godawful price for it. This is just one example, and these little napoleon buttheads can just do it to people so casually, as if it is somehow socially acceptable. They will lie. They will omit essential information or behave as if that information does not exist. They will twist things around just to make themselves top dog so they can do the humpy humpy on someone's backside. I hope that the metaphor isn't too crude for this section of the forum.

When I was a child and my mother was doing pretty much the same thing, and I told her she couldn't do that, she said "I can do anything I want to." She had a miniature child, lifelike in every detail except about 1/2 scale, and because she had so much "superiority" over that child, she felt that she could ill use that child any way she wanted to. Why do such things always have to go from bad to worse, so that it isn't just being tortured to find out where the shampoo went, it's being tortured for every possible excuse, even if that excuse is not possible?

The big question is, why? Why, when having such physical and other advantages over a person, it would occur to anyone to ill use that person? It took me many many instances of being used as a punching bag before I could truly get into mopping the floor with someone who had assaulted me. It's a little bit easy to swing "too far" the other way, too but I know how far those people will go.

Beating on others when you have the advantage and they haven't done something truly heinous says something bad about you. It's really bad. I am now infected with the idea that some people are indeed heinous in subtle ways and deserve to be abused if possible. It is a sickness. It is not less sick when it is supported by what seems to be true and incontrovertible fact. At the same time, I seem to be disallowed from any reasonable sort of defense because some of those people walk right over that even though they are wrong and I am right. They don't entertain ideas that contradict theirs. They do take advantage of attempts by a person to be a reasonable person. It's a classic conflict. Without acquiring the illness there seems to be no way to defend against a person who has the illness. They don't actually deal with it well either. They just gather in groups and mess up the lives of whoever opposes their moronic ideas.

How about setting up a hidden video camera, and maybe setting up trigger situations for these idjits, build a file of them being what they are, and sue them in civil court for a large punitive $um?

Up here, we have a Human Rights Commission. That would nail them cold. Do you have something like that?

Do have a Dx as disabled?

I have a dx as a "paranoid schizophrenic" by someone who could barely speak English.

I'm Officially Depressed, but that means I'm "psychiatric" and automatically have a credibility level of zero. So if I wanted to complain, I'd have to have witnesses or proof, as in a camera. Or maybe a voice-activated recorder?

Oh - re pics of grass - you put a newspaper with today's date in the pic, right?

It's not in what I can prove to a moral certainty for a court. It's in my own attitude. I can tell my story and have it believed and I know this. I need to make some emotional breakthroughs and achieve that which is almost a trivial effort on my part from one point of view, but a mountain to climb from another. I have practiced shifting to the better viewpoint.

It's all strange. I have trouble convincing myself that things work the way that they actually work.

They do these things not because they are right but because they are wrong. Trying to prove them wrong is trying to prove something that they already know.

Actually, I think that I already know what to do. The first step I have down pretty well. The next steps, the follow-through, are more problematic but solvable. They involve moving forward from the telling of my story to the implementation of measures that might actually change things. They also involve enduring failure and becoming stronger from it, not my strong suit.

Authority people become authorities just because they want to take their s**t out on others. They have indeed very, very narrow minds and no moral whatsoever.

That and something else I read here reminded me that teachers used to deliberately provoke me when I was in school and then lie about it. I've also had coworkers and bosses do that in the workplace. To me that is one of the worst kinds of hell because it gives people reputations that someone wants to hand on them instead of reputations that they deserve and earn. They will even say that a person has earned a bad reputation by somehow "crossing" them by the crime of existing.

Most people are stern because they cannot tolerate some of the things that we, as people with AS, do.

I hope things improve with you soon!

Thank you, Larsen. Things have improved for me in the last few months. I have a job and rarely meet with hostiles except on the net. The thing is, I want to solve the problem. The authoritarian types seem quite ready to destroy anything to get their way and if they get their way they keep on destroying things so there isn't much to be gained, if anything, by cooperating with them. They can't seem to solve problems constructively.

It would be a good idea for Aspies to evaluate the way that they solve problems and compare them to the way that neurotypicals solve problems. I see in the neurotypicals a huge bias towards destructive solutions and a paucity of constructive solutions. A lot of them do this out of habit, not out of inclination, often not realizing that they are being nonconstructive. The system punishes people who use constructive solutions and behave intelligently. Even when it seems to approve it can be an uphill struggle. This is worst when it is a "problem." A big hairy scary problem means to authoritarians that destructive solutions are automatic and those who don't want to use destructive solutions are idiots, malicious, maybe even perverts.

It has always been my impression that authority is a machine-- it does not have feelings and cannot be reasoned with. The most logical thing IMO is to stay out of its way at any cost. Follow the laws but stay in the shadows.

Not saying this is what you should do, this is just what I do.

Well, we all know about how far that gets us.

Here's the wierd thing. We look at who manipulates the machinery and they have no special talents. If anything, they are morons and psychoneurotics. Yet they know how to manipulate the machinery and get results. One of the few things that I know of that gives them a decisive advantage is their willingness to assassinate the characters and sometimes the bodies of their opponents. Decent people aren't willing to do that. Then decent people get tired of it and try to stop being targets. The bad people identify us and come for us anyway. We're better off fighting them because then we are not circumscribing our own lives. We are also better off informing people of what is going on.

I may have mentioned before that I intend to package all this and sell it. People will be most convinced by what they buy and pay for. Literally, to get them to buy into it, you have to get them to trade some currency for it. It doesn't seem real when it stays in the airy-fairy realm and a person doesn't see the coin that he trades for it.

You're welcome, and my name is Jason.

The Norwegian author Aksel Sandemose wrote that "The system of justice is a brainless machine, which looks upon itself with respect". That could be applied to any kind of authority.

I believe that every person only does what he or she believes to be *right*. Everyone is justified in his or her own mind. Even if a person does something that they *know* is wrong, they always have a *reason* to justify it and make it *right*. I can only pity these people and try my best not to be one of them. Many who abuse others do so because they have been abused in one way or another. It is the wrong way to deal with their problems, but it is the only way they know how. They take it out on others. They should be pitied, but never excused. Such actions are never *right*, and can never be justified for any reason.

I think this is what you get when you have a system that believes in 'punishment' as a way of teaching right and wrong.