Why does this person say Im nice?

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25 Nov 2012, 6:50 pm

Ok well, at work we had a drawing to win an older laptop. I have no idea about specks, but I entered anyways, paid $25 bucks for the entering fee, won the older laptop and gave it to a church friend, who desperately needs a computer for work.
This person says Im nice, why?
I wasnt even asking for a thankyou, I just gave it to them. I told them that if they had any questions to contact the IT department at my library where I work.
They kept saying thankyou and that Im nice, over and over, why?


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25 Nov 2012, 6:53 pm

You are nice, that's why.

You gave something of your own to someone in need.

That's a nice thing to do.

Nice people do nice things.

Ergo...


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25 Nov 2012, 7:03 pm

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You are nice, that's why.

You gave something of your own to someone in need.

That's a nice thing to do.

Nice people do nice things.

Ergo...


I thought it was normal to give something to someone in need?
I know I would want the same thing done to me. Ie do to others what I would want done to myself.


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25 Nov 2012, 7:07 pm

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You are nice, that's why. You gave something of your own to someone in need. That's a nice thing to do. Nice people do nice things. Ergo...
I thought it was normal to give something to someone in need?

It should be normal, but it isn't common. That's why your friend may have seemed overwhelmed by your generosity.

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I know I would want the same thing done to me. Ie do to others what I would want done to myself.

Did you learn this concept, or did you come to it on your own?

Either way, more people should be like you.

My wife and I are currently hosting a person who would otherwise be homeless. He shows his gratitude by helping out with housework.

Sacrificial giving should be normal, but it isn't common...


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25 Nov 2012, 7:10 pm

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Fnord wrote:
You are nice, that's why. You gave something of your own to someone in need. That's a nice thing to do. Nice people do nice things. Ergo...
I thought it was normal to give something to someone in need?

It should be normal, but it isn't common. That's why your friend may have seemed overwhelmed by your generosity.

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I know I would want the same thing done to me. Ie do to others what I would want done to myself.

Did you learn this concept, or did you come to it on your own?

Either way, more people should be like you.

My wife and I are currently hosting a person who would otherwise be homeless. He shows his gratitude by helping out with housework.

Sacrificial giving should be normal, but it isn't common...


I was taught it, however it was pretty much natural to me. With the exception of if Im in a bad mood, then I might not treat people that well. Usually Im bullied, so sometimes I get mean back, but I feel bad, and apologize and bend over backwards to make it up to that person.

Speaking of that sort of stuff, when you let someone stay with you, do you think they HAVE to abide by your rules?


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25 Nov 2012, 7:25 pm

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Did you learn this concept, or did you come to it on your own?

I was taught it, however it was pretty much natural to me. With the exception of if Im in a bad mood, then I might not treat people that well. Usually Im bullied, so sometimes I get mean back, but I feel bad, and apologize and bend over backwards to make it up to that person.

Then you are a normal person ... generous, but normal ...

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Speaking of that sort of stuff, when you let someone stay with you, do you think they HAVE to abide by your rules?

Yes, unless there is a compelling reason to change our "rules".

Most of our "rules" are common sense: No smoking; no drugs; no drunkenness; no open fires (don't leave candles burning unattended); no visitors while we're not at home (especially door-to-door salespeople, utility workers, and people claiming to be 'friends'); if you break it, you fix it, or you pay to have it fixed or replaced; cover your body outside your bedroom (or the bathroom); if a bathroom or bedroom door is closed, knock and wait for an answer; et cetera. Everybody in my house is expected to do these things.

We ask that our guest use the opportunity to get a job, save money, and move into their own place within a year (more time if they're going to school). In return, we give a room, a bed, food, clothing (if needed), and medical care (when necessary), among other considerations.


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25 Nov 2012, 7:29 pm

Fnord wrote:
Keniichi wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Did you learn this concept, or did you come to it on your own?

I was taught it, however it was pretty much natural to me. With the exception of if Im in a bad mood, then I might not treat people that well. Usually Im bullied, so sometimes I get mean back, but I feel bad, and apologize and bend over backwards to make it up to that person.

Then you are a normal person ... generous, but normal ...

Keniichi wrote:
Speaking of that sort of stuff, when you let someone stay with you, do you think they HAVE to abide by your rules?

Yes, unless there is a compelling reason to change our "rules".

Most of our "rules" are common sense: No smoking; no drugs; no drunkenness; no open fires (don't leave candles burning unattended); no visitors while we're not at home (especially door-to-door salespeople, utility workers, and people claiming to be 'friends'); if you break it, you fix it, or you pay to have it fixed or replaced; cover your body outside your bedroom (or the bathroom); if a bathroom or bedroom door is closed, knock and wait for an answer; et cetera. Everybody in my house is expected to do these things.

We ask that our guest use the opportunity to get a job, save money, and move into their own place within a year (more time if they're going to school). In return, we give a room, a bed, food, clothing (if needed), and medical care (when necessary), among other considerations.



If they dont move out, would you charge them rent, or make them do work around the house to earn their keep? would you be lenient about the times they get these things done?

My friend stays with us sometimes, however he has back pain because theirs no extra space for him. It would help if he was normal size and not a giant. xD

If they pay rent, and do what is asked would you make exceptions to your rules? My friend cusses, and sometimes he has to leave our house because of it, even though he pays and helps with things around our house.


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25 Nov 2012, 7:37 pm

Keniichi wrote:
Fnord wrote:
You are nice, that's why.

You gave something of your own to someone in need.

That's a nice thing to do.

Nice people do nice things.

Ergo...


I thought it was normal to give something to someone in need?
I know I would want the same thing done to me. Ie do to others what I would want done to myself.

I'm just curious, if the situation was reversed, would you thank them? Would you say they were nice?



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25 Nov 2012, 7:39 pm

yellowtamarin wrote:
Keniichi wrote:
Fnord wrote:
You are nice, that's why.

You gave something of your own to someone in need.

That's a nice thing to do.

Nice people do nice things.

Ergo...


I thought it was normal to give something to someone in need?
I know I would want the same thing done to me. Ie do to others what I would want done to myself.

I'm just curious, if the situation was reversed, would you thank them? Would you say they were nice?

Most likely Id look confused as to why they were doing this. (Id eventually nod, and say thanks, and leave). Im not used to people giving me compliments, especially OVER AND OVER.


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25 Nov 2012, 7:39 pm

If they don't move out after a year, they're invited to seek living arrangements elsewhere (unless they're going to school). I've never had to enforce this rule, as the people we host are honest people who are just down on their luck.

We do not ask for rent, because we expect them to save their money toward first and last month's rent on an apartment, or to otherwise make their own arrangements. We do expect them to meet any special expenses they may incur (dates, park admissions, and so forth).


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25 Nov 2012, 8:44 pm

@Fnord - I've never heard of families doing what you do - open your home to strangers to stay so they can get back on their feet. That's very unusual especially in today's paranoid society. Is this a social program administered by the state or do you just find people in need on the internet or the street? I'm very curious.



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25 Nov 2012, 8:51 pm

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@Fnord - I've never heard of families doing what you do - open your home to strangers to stay so they can get back on their feet. That's very unusual especially in today's paranoid society. Is this a social program administered by the state or do you just find people in need on the internet or the street? I'm very curious.

Usually through church ... no convicts, and we check the "Megan's Law" lists.


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25 Nov 2012, 9:04 pm

I was once told by someone that he liked to hang out with me because I was the only one that was nice to him. Which kind of confused me because I treat everyone the same. Does this mean I am nice to everyone then? And does generous constitute nice? Because the stuff I give to people is not really an inconvenience in any way for me - just getting rid of stuff I don't need that they can use.



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25 Nov 2012, 9:14 pm

I prefer people who are nice over people who are nasty. Being a nice person is a good thing. There aren't enough people in the world who are nice anymore and I feel that's a shame. Getting to know a nice person is a breath of fresh air for me.


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25 Nov 2012, 9:28 pm

In our society genuine kindness isn't quite common. So although this is overused and tacky in my boat, be kind and pass it on! :)



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26 Nov 2012, 12:06 am

Keniichi wrote:
I thought it was normal to give something to someone in need?
I know I would want the same thing done to me. Ie do to others what I would want done to myself.


You went above and beyond what people would expect you to do. You won a whole new computer, you could have used for yourself or sold for money.

You instead gave it to someone who needed it.

Not many people live by the golden rule (or even try to). The person was probably stunned and didn't know how to convey his thanks, so he just kept thanking you.