Year later and job didn't help me find gf

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My job is as bad as having no job it seems

Tired of my worthless existence

Your existence is not as worthless as the thoughts that tell your existence is worthless.

You can't find a gf, a gf is not an object to find. A gf has to make a conscious decision to be a gf. Objects don't make conscious decisions to be found. A gf is not an object and thus, cannot be found. A job has a no bearing on a gf's decision and with a job you have money so having a job is better then having no job. Unless you are working for free, in which case quit and go the mall and talk to random women. You will get at least two dates for every slap you get.

First off I'm so tired of the oh you just think women are objects. Cause I never said that. Finding s gf/bf or finding s friend are common phrases and in no way imply women are objects.

2nd a mans job is a big part of why most women reject guys. It's universal. I haven't seen a single woman in my area who doesn't require a guy have a good job. Not a single one. What's that tell you? That there's a universal accepted standard of how much a guy needs to make. That working retail isn't considered a good or real job. So min wage doesn't count. So what's a good job? Middle class pay is what I've gathered. So 20+ and hour. What I don't get is combined income for most houses here are $19 an dhour. So either one person making $19 or two people working combine to $19. So why do all the women here require a guy to make $20 and up? Why are min wage jobs that without society would come to a screeching stop and collapse seen as worthless and to unloveable?

Like even the women who work min wage won't date guys who make min wage. f**k even unemployed women won't. So who do worthless men like me date?

It's still much better to work than to sit on your butt all day (provided you are capable of working).

I dont know playing video games distracts me while all I do at work all day is struggle not to cry and think how horrible the women I see are

Work is just a constant reminder of how horrible and worthless I am cause I don't make enough money and was born defective

Okay sorry,

I know nothing of women to be honest, I wouldn't want to find one if I knew how.

I am sorry you want one and can't have one, I have no need for one and evidently they have little need for me. If I have to disappear for eight hours a day then evidently a woman is more interested in getting rid of me then keeping me. Sounds shallow to me which is not far off from the expectation you have of yourself but whatever. I am sorry, I was trying help, I'll go away.

Did you ever ask that one that said sort of yes again? If it wasn't a hell no under pressure there is hope. Ask one more time and sorry if you have already posted about that, I only read about 70% of the forum.

Keep trying... I don't have a job and nothing indicates that I will ever get one, but I'm not going to let that bring me down. A relationship is about loving one another for who they are, if she can't do that it would never work out anyway. There's so many messed up people that find a partner somehow, so if you're a nice person you already have an edge over most of the population

This is a really hard holiday for people who are single. It's really not that big of a deal, to be single. So what? I can have fun on my own.

I was going to post something like sly279's OP but he beat me too it.

I'm starting to think society has warped women into thinking there's always a better guy out there even when there clearly isn't.

This is the haven, not the Pick on Women board. WTH people?

If you'all want to start a gender war, take it somewhere else.

Pardon those of us who've done nothing wrong yet are viewed as undatable for our anger as we watch charles manson get love letters.

FYI I don't blame women I blame society.

"In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women."

^THIS is what you are doing wrong. Nobody loves bitter, negative people. Nobody wants to date someone who complains about society messing up all women. Women like respect. Women especially desire men who respect themselves.

You aren't owed dates. It doesn't mean that something is wrong with the world if you don't get dates. It doesn't even have to mean that anything is wrong with you. Dating isn't obligatory. It comes to people who have the social skills to flirt and befriend the opposite sex. It's somewhat easier for people who have attractive looks or money. That's it. There's no international conspiracy to keep geeks lonely - just a bunch of guys who keep telling themselves that everyone in the world is at fault for their lonelyness, except for themselves.

Move on. Develop some REAL self-esteem by focusing on increasing your unique positive traits. Stop focusing so much on what you think other people should be doing for you.

Respect themselves?

You've got to be kidding me to claim Manson respects himself.

Re: $20/hr or middle class income as a requirement by local women to want to date a guy.. dating profiles and requirements are like job ads - they're full of wish lists! Not absolute set in stone requirements. Of course people want to date someone who is equal or better to themselves, typically, and income is a good measure of that since it defines quality of life and disposable income for things like dates, vacations, investments, retirement etc. Clearly local incomes must be lower if the average household income is approximately $19/hr full time, or $38K/year, so while $20/hr might be on some girls' wish list it cannot possibly be the minimum requirement of all local women or else no one would be dating or in a relationship.


FYI I live in an extremely expensive part of the world. I've earned more in the past, but currently earn less than $20/hr. I know I will earn plenty more in the future. Anyways, I've been dating someone for a couple months. They earn less than I do. Money counts for some things, but it certainly isn't everything, especially not to everyone. I think you'd do yourself a great service by stopping measuring your own worth by whether or not you earn more than $20/hr. Seriously.. find a new metric of self worth and you'll feel better if you Must measure yourself by something. Maybe if you started measuring your self worth by how many times you smile in a day, or how many times you laugh, or how many times you help others etc you'd find yourself thinking better of yourself in no time flat.

How that going help? They stop talking to me immediately upon hearing I work retail. Which for all they know could be a manager who makes good money. I'm not but they assume rightly I suppose. Anyways clearly for women in my area the won't date men who don't make ____ much is set in stone requirement.

The ones who it wasn't are in relationships leaving only the ones for whom it is. So it's quite depressing to be rejected all the time over my job and constantly see women say they won't date men who don't have a good job. It's a dark tunnel with no light at the end. I make 10.50 an hour or so. That income in a state like Missouri might be considered good but here it's not even considered a real job.

Worth is based on how others see you or an object, I can think my car is worth 50,000 all I want but it's only worth 1000 based on others. Thinking I'm working a great job and I'm a great catch didn't and won't do anything as long as no woman here sees it that way.

Honestly I think it's a case of women here(where I live) being raised to think their better then they really are. A lot are working min wage jobs or in college likely not going get a good job from their degree( like a lot of people who go to college) few are unemployed living off their parents or roommates. Then there's another few who have well paid jobs(who would be better off on paid sites like eharmony then OkCupid or Craigslist)

Few of these women(especially on Craigslist) also come off as bit bitter at not being able to find a "real man"

I dont know what to do. The people at vocational rehabilitation thought finding a job would help me find a girl. It was the main reason I went to find a job. I didn't need to work. I had more disposable income without working and a lot less stress. But after spending a year trying to find a job that pay $15+ I couldn't. Way to many unemployed people here with lots more experience then me. I have no experience in anything outside of cashing and retail. You should surf my area, it'd probably make you bitter too.
From what I've seen the guys are more relaxed on requirements, just wanting companion ship. With some shallow ones who say they'll on,u date certain body types.

Im trying my best but it never seems to be good enough or ever will be. I can't move up in my work, due to my aspergers I make a horrible leader or manager. I'm not a good salesmen either. I can't even move out of my department, I tried to transfer to gun counter since I have a lot of knowledge about guns and am passionate about it, but I lack experience and apparently it's more about selling then knowledge. They hire a lot of people with no gun knowledge I've been told

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