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Kiprobalhato
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24 Sep 2018, 8:24 pm

nor will it ever.



this sucks. i feel like i haven't progressed a day since i was 17. everyone is light years ahead of me in all possible respects (i am certain of this.)





also my art sucks.


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24 Sep 2018, 8:50 pm

I don't feel people here have a dim view of your Art.

What is going on in your Head?



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24 Sep 2018, 10:12 pm

Imposter syndrome dude. I constantly feel undisciplined as a techie but I've been refining the craft for almost two decades. There's no such thing as good or bad art, it's a question of the right frame or wall, or the absence thereof.


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25 Sep 2018, 8:38 am

I wouldn't say you're alone. So many feel exactly the same. Times are difficult. One must also take into consideration that the younger generations kind of got screwed in terms of career outlook. But this doesn't mean that things are by any means hopeless. You're just starting out and you still have time. The difficult part for many can be finding a career path and sticking to it. If you can do that and not deviate from it, you will see and feel progress. One day and one accomplishment at a time so you don't overwhelm yourself.

And I know it's much easier said than done. I do know that. By the way, I've seen your artwork here. I don't think it's bad at all. Art is mainly for the artist themselves, isn't it? If others like and appreciate it, all the better. I don't know much about what it takes to break into the art world, but I would guess it's rather difficult. Perhaps retain your passion for art, but also focus on a main objective which would be to establish a solid career path. A path which you can follow through discipline. All that's needed is structure and a guided path and many can excel in what they set out to accomplish.



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25 Sep 2018, 9:13 am

It could be that you just have a steeper initial learning curve. If you are really creative freedom can actually be inhibiting. You just can't decide how to get started. I found it easier to work on tough problems, in which nobody had any idea how to solve. So all I needed to do was to find one solution. :wink:



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25 Sep 2018, 9:19 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
my life = going nowhere ... nor will it ever. this sucks. i feel like i haven't progressed a day since i was 17. everyone is light years ahead of me in all possible respects (i am certain of this.) also my art sucks.
Kip? Is this really you?

You are one of the most "together" people on this website!

A person's early 20s are often fraught with self-doubt, but I have no doubt that your life is about to take off! It may be imperceptibly slow at first, but I believe that you will soon vast improvement!

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25 Sep 2018, 9:21 am

Fnord wouldn't say those same words to me.

I'd take his word for it.



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25 Sep 2018, 10:31 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
nor will it ever.



this sucks. i feel like i haven't progressed a day since i was 17. everyone is light years ahead of me in all possible respects (i am certain of this.)





also my art sucks.


Where do you want your life to go Kiprobalhato? It could be your life is already going there, just taking too long. Patience. :heart:



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25 Sep 2018, 11:04 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't feel people here have a dim view of your Art.

What is going on in your Head?


vast delusion...apparently.

Fnord asked if the OP is really me and i'd probably have to say, no. it isn't.

it's true that i constantly feel inferior and i have to work very hard to maintain a condition that other people seem to effortlessly uphold. it is true that i am very self conscious about my work and of course i'm going to be critical about it.



it's just frustrating - working hard as hell on something and sharing it with the world only for it to be completely ignored - and someone else posting or speaking five minutes after me gets way more attention and (perhaps more importantly), feedback - it's like i don't exist.

this always happens. even outside of art i am practically invisible and it's just like....how?

what did i do wrong? how am o
bothering others?

this place is the only exception i think. and i am grateful for it.


i agree with RE- art if for the artist, if others find something to like in it, cool.

but i want people to look at what i make and feel something. anything really, is better than nothing. if one can make his audience feel, he has succeeded as an artist IMO.

i fortunately don't plan to make a living off of it..but some money would be nice. the majority of people an another art server in on have these elaborate, expansive illustration programs and tablets with which they make these beautiful digital pieces and i don't even have a computer (anymore), so how can i compete??

of course that's just the tip of the iceberg regarding what's been bothering me. but i don't want to repeat myself. a lot of people say there's no better time to be young than now - i still disagree. what i would give to have been born in the 70s.


(not a "le wrong generation", it's just a fact.)


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25 Sep 2018, 11:06 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
nor will it ever.
this sucks. i feel like i haven't progressed a day since i was 17. everyone is light years ahead of me in all possible respects (i am certain of this.)
also my art sucks.


life is ultimately aimless.
nothing i will ever do will be remembered in a few hundred years.
but just live!
you are alive, and that in itself is the greatest gift that is bestowed in the universe.

i think however this may be a veiled cry out to one of your girlfriends like booyakasha (sp?)

anyway good luck



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25 Sep 2018, 11:16 am

b9 wrote:
life is ultimately aimless.
nothing i will ever do will be remembered in a few hundred years.
but just live!
you are alive, and that in itself is the greatest gift that is bestowed in the universe.


i agree that life is aimless - i may add that the only meaning it has is the one you give it. and the vast majority of people will be forgotten in a few hundred years time. fortunately i'm not concerned with the next hundred years. only the next five at most...

we are all fortunate to be alive, but its hard to appreciate that when constant negative thinking clouds your judgement

it seems i'm at my wits end just trying to seek out a moment of clarity.

b9 wrote:
i think however this may be a veiled cry out to one of your girlfriends like booyakasha (sp?)

anyway good luck



lol

no. she is gone.

thank you


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25 Sep 2018, 11:31 am

cberg wrote:
Imposter syndrome .


That's what it sounds like to me as well , it describes me pretty well too :|


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25 Sep 2018, 11:36 am

yep


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25 Sep 2018, 11:38 am

Kip: you can't be God. You have to be yourself.

I believe you are seeking some elusive, impossible to attain Perfection. That's what I feel.



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25 Sep 2018, 11:43 am

i see

i'm still trying to find out who he is. its a long search.


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25 Sep 2018, 11:45 am

God is, probably, what you make of Him (or Her, or it, or whatever).

I wish Philosophy was a practical major in college; you just might ace the major.....