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17 Nov 2007, 3:44 pm

I believe demons are responsible for OCD! They put thoughts into you to warn you. They have great joy by seeing you suffer from your rituals, and if you break them, they will have great joy in killing your family members.

Why doesn't the Bible and the Qur'an talk about OCD?

I am sure OCD is caused by demons who communicate with their victims. I've actually seen one the demons.

I'm so tired of psychiatrists explaining dopamine and all that stuff that causes voices in your head and seeing things. It could aswell be demons.



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17 Nov 2007, 4:15 pm

I think a lot of what we call "mental illness" is the same thing the Bible refers to as demonic possession.
Never read the Koran though.
When I spent a brief internship in a psychiatric institution I could really feel what seemed like demons in the (atmosphere? not the correct word). I had to get out of there. It was really intense and painful for me.



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17 Nov 2007, 4:17 pm

Then get exorsized if it's so much of a problem. 8O
Just remember, the demons will not kill your family. They only say that to make you succumb. They don't have that kind of power, so don't give it to them.



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17 Nov 2007, 4:19 pm

I've sort of become an expert at breaking rituals. I hate routine and order with a passion. Of course others who love ritual usually hate that, but then when dealing with these demons, its for the best.



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17 Nov 2007, 4:25 pm

i think schizophrenia is evil spirits talking to people and they really here them


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17 Nov 2007, 5:24 pm

OCD Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, is a behavior, like any other behavior. It is not caused by demons. OCD can be helped, and sometimes even "cured."

Its causes are complicated and vary in each person, but demons? Come on.

Most of the time, OCD is a result of being very nervous about something (which might be very real). It is you're minds attempt to cope with that nervousness. Unfortunately, the behavior doesn't work, and sometimes the thing that's causing it has a much deeper cause. We're pretty complicated beings.

If an exorcissm is going to make you feel better, as long as it's not dangerous (which is to say, it doesn't put your own or anyone else's life in danger), then go head. But don't be surprised if it doesn't work!

Sorry, I just don't buy the demon's thing.

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17 Nov 2007, 5:34 pm

It is somewhat comfortable to believe OCD is caused by evil spirits. Because then it is not my fault I have these rituals.

If OCD is caused by mental illness, then it means I am stupid/dumb/moronic.



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17 Nov 2007, 5:37 pm

I never said OCD was caused by mental illness.

It isn't.

It's caused by intense (and sometimes perfectly normal) frustration with a situation.

I never believe that anyone who says "I'm a stupid moron." is actually a stupid moron. That's a form of hurting yourself too.

Get some professional help.

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17 Nov 2007, 6:59 pm

Look, I don't know. Really.

Just a suggestion: Do not mention this to your psychiatrist. He/she will not understand, I promise.
Have you consulted an exorcist, btw?





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17 Nov 2007, 11:14 pm

dktekno wrote:
I believe demons are responsible for OCD! They put thoughts into you to warn you. They have great joy by seeing you suffer from your rituals, and if you break them, they will have great joy in killing your family members.

Why doesn't the Bible and the Qur'an talk about OCD?

I am sure OCD is caused by demons who communicate with their victims. I've actually seen one the demons.

I'm so tired of psychiatrists explaining dopamine and all that stuff that causes voices in your head and seeing things. It could aswell be demons.


You're joking, right?



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17 Nov 2007, 11:48 pm

It seriously pisses me off when people claim that mental illnesses such as Schizophrenia are caused by demons.

Telling a person with a psychotic illness that they are being contacted by spirits will only serve to further confuse them and drive them deeper into madness. I speak from experience here - a person in this forum suggested this as a cause of my voices and it confused the hell out of me.

"Voices" are products of the sufferer's mind. They are like imaginary friends gone wrong - and they behave however you expect them to behave. If you believe they are demons out to get you, they will become demons. (In my experience - it probably varys from person to person.)

Mentally ill people already have weird ideas in their heads - telling them stories about evil spirits will just make it worse. That goes for OCD as well.

I think the OP is an evil spirit. (troll)


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18 Nov 2007, 2:43 am

Aridarr wrote:
It seriously pisses me off when people claim that mental illnesses such as Schizophrenia are caused by demons.

Telling a person with a psychotic illness that they are being contacted by spirits will only serve to further confuse them and drive them deeper into madness. I speak from experience here - a person in this forum suggested this as a cause of my voices and it confused the hell out of me.

"Voices" are products of the sufferer's mind. They are like imaginary friends gone wrong - and they behave however you expect them to behave. If you believe they are demons out to get you, they will become demons. (In my experience - it probably varys from person to person.)

Mentally ill people already have weird ideas in their heads - telling them stories about evil spirits will just make it worse. That goes for OCD as well.

I think the OP is an evil spirit. (troll)


Agreed. Whilst I am sad for the sufferer, please lets deal with the science behind the 'disorder' instead of confounding unrealities. The facts, that you can get better, should be good news. I would imagine everything is confusing enough without pretending the demons are doing the deed.


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18 Nov 2007, 5:01 am

dktekno wrote:
It is somewhat comfortable to believe OCD is caused by evil spirits. Because then it is not my fault I have these rituals.

If OCD is caused by mental illness, then it means I am stupid/dumb/moronic.


doesnt mean that at all


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18 Nov 2007, 8:15 am

Demons or a distorted uptake of dopamine (it's actually serotonin, but that's the chicken or the egg thingy); whatever helps you.

Some psychiatrists/psychologists say to personify the monster that's within you, to distinguish it from who you are; your personality, and then recognize the monster for what it is, an irrational portion that makes you do these rituals because you're afraid of its voice being true.

It's never true.



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18 Nov 2007, 4:43 pm

Okay, I do believe in demons, and I do believe that demons cause a wide variety of physical and mental problems, but saying that a "personality disorder", like OCD, schizophrenia, or autism, is caused by demons is pushing the issue too much, in my opinion.
When I say "mental problems", I mean depression and the like.



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18 Nov 2007, 6:37 pm

As an overarching comment, I am so grateful that just 'us' are reading this thread. The topic is congruent to us, whatever our respective thoughts, opinions, insights.

Do you realize, that for a NT outsider reading this thread without context, this could be rather disturbing?

I am glad we're us.


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