to all who think there are too many self-pity and rants here

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remember that 'the haven' is only 1 forum. there are 25 forums total in wrong planet and most of the rants are concentrated here. maybe there are some rants in the general autism discussion forum and the members only forum but still that makes 3 forums out of 25. so at most only 12% of wrong planet are rants and self-pity and 88% are normal, happy discussions. so it's not so bad.

Good point, but most of the users don't regularly read and post in all the 25 forums.

Everyone needs to get it off their shoulder now and then. The ones I have a problem with are the ones that go around and say "stop whining", "OMG. how gulibal/delusional/ ect.". Accusers like that don't really care about how other people feel, in my oppinion.

I second that. People who are brave enough to ask for help doesn't deserve to be called whiners because of it! And people who post because things are actually going well in their lives doesn't deserve to be cut down by some idiot calling them delusional. Unless you think your reply might help or reasure the person, then just don't reply! Go play games in the off the wall section or something if you don't wanna take thing serious!

According to the forum description, The Haven is For those times when you're feeling blue and need to get a little help from your friends. Since we're not all perfect communicators, a cry for help might be misconstrued as a pointless attention-seeking ploy, but everyone deserves a fair chance to vent their feelings, and it's impossible to know how fragile the person behind the post is, so if someone can't even get help from their 'own', they might feel they can't find help anywhere.

I don't see anything wrong with self-pity and rants in The Haven. After all, that's what The Haven is for, right?
But, I seriously can't stand it when people post stuff like that in another forum, like General Discussion. It's nothing but a pathetic ploy for attention.

Yeah I agree, it's a support forum.

My issue with whining is I sometimes feel people just indulge in self righteous anger or misery because they have something they can blame for their problems.

But yeah in general, the Haven is a good place to vent and get help.

I don't think that there's anything wrong with ranting in the Haven...but it does get slightly irritating when people rant in other forums...[thats not what they are for!]
People need to vent at times...and sometimes it's easier to do online than in real life. It's better than holding it all in and waiting until breaking point to tell someone.

I admit that some threads I started that I thought were more relevant to General Autism Discussion belonged in The Haven. But I thibnk that there should be a rule on WrongPlanet-- you can abuse, use, or insult ANYONE BUT EACH OTHER. Some people who come here are looking for something that this board isn't about. They don't seem to understand solidarity when it comes to this.