WARNING: Drunk offensive rant against NT's

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Sirunus
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13 Mar 2009, 7:21 pm

I believe I have lost faith in neurotypical people. They are too closed minded and intuitive that they will never accept me as their equal. It was them that oppressed us Aspergians, driving us to the edges of society where we are forgotten and excluded, pushing us to depressive illness and to the point of suicide. We are nothing but freaks in their world. They tell us we're a disease and the way we are is a disorder. They tell us we need to be cured and that society would be better off without us. They discriminate and oppress us in schools, both pupils and those in authority alike, until they have driven every last ounce of our self-esteem out of us. So-called friends will exclude us and no neurotypical girl will ever want us, simply because we are different and they are unable to embrace that. I have tried to stem my hatred for neurotypicals with all my power, but now that power is frail. We live in their world and we have to adapt to it. Since four times more males than females are diagnosed with Asperger's, we have to find supposedly NT girlfriends. It is a world where I am unable to thrive. Perhaps the rest of you have found ways of thriving in such an ignorant society, but the discrimination against us is far too great for me to ever embrace a neurotypical. They are our enemies, and they deserve to be punished for what they have done to us Aspergians.

Sorry for this drunken raving rant, but it's just how I feel at the moment. I am upset. Feel free to rip this incoherent rant apart.



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13 Mar 2009, 7:40 pm

Sirunus wrote:
I believe I have lost faith in neurotypical people. They are too closed minded and intuitive that they will never accept me as their equal.

Have you accepted them as your equals? Apparently not. Closed mindedness is not exclusively an NT trait, it seems.

Sirunus wrote:
It was them that oppressed us Aspergians, driving us to the edges of society where we are forgotten and excluded, pushing us to depressive illness and to the point of suicide.

Oppressed? You mean, like we're enslaved? Or maybe they've disenfranchised us of our rights to speak, vote, worship, and freely assemble in peace? No? Then the "oppression" you speak of may only be a reasonable response to rants like yours - not true oppression, but ostracism instead.

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We are nothing but freaks in their world.

No, they are freaks in ours. With this knowledge alone, any one of us can overcome their attitudes towards us.

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They tell us we're a disease and the way we are is a disorder.

Which "they" are you referring to? The educated mental-health professionals, or the ignorant masses who know only what they've read in the news about a few Aspies who've "snapped" and become violent?

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They tell us we need to be cured and that society would be better off without us.

"Autism Speaks" does not speak for me.

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They discriminate and oppress us in schools, both pupils and those in authority alike, until they have driven every last ounce of our self-esteem out of us.

If you can't keep up with normal social development, then you will be left out of society. Deal with it.

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So-called friends will exclude us and no neurotypical girl will ever want us, simply because we are different and they are unable to embrace that. I have tried to stem my hatred for neurotypicals with all my power, but now that power is frail.

I have many NT friends, and my wife is an NT. Besides, no-one can make you feel hate without your cooperation.

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We live in their world and we have to adapt to it. Since four times more males than females are diagnosed with Asperger's, we have to find supposedly NT girlfriends.

No, they live in our world. Remember what Bill Gates said, "Be nice to the nerds. Someday, you may be working for one!" We used to be called nerds. Now we're also called Aspies.

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It is a world where I am unable to thrive. Perhaps the rest of you have found ways of thriving in such an ignorant society, but the discrimination against us is far too great for me to ever embrace a neurotypical.

You discriminate against NTs and try to justify it by claiming that it's really "Them" against "Us." This is why you've failed.

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They are our enemies, and they deserve to be punished for what they have done to us Aspergians.

You may have chosen NTs as enemies, but I have not. You will never convince me that they are "our" enemies, because it just isn't true. They are [i]your] enemies, not mine. Fight your own battles.

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Sorry for this drunken raving rant, but it's just how I feel at the moment. I am upset.

We all get upset, but as I've implied before, no-one can make you feel upset without your cooperation.

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13 Mar 2009, 7:45 pm

You do realise that jst like Aspies NT people do each have individual personalities. By using the term 'they' it sounds a though you're generalising all NTs. Not all of them deserve to be punished in the same way that not all aspies deserve to be punished. However, I'll excues your rant seeing as you're drunk. :wink:



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13 Mar 2009, 7:52 pm

I'll drink to that.

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13 Mar 2009, 7:53 pm

I am indeed drunk, and I'll probably regret what I said tomorrow as what I said was quite offensive, unfortunately though there is no way I could delete this thread. Yes I was rash in what I said, but I felt this was a good place to vent to help make those feelings go away.



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13 Mar 2009, 8:11 pm

I get that you have Aspergers

Believe me I know how frustrating it is to live with, I have it too

But your post is a blatant attack on YOURSELF

When you can truly accept YOURSELF and see YOURSELF as WHOLE and COMPLETE the way you ARE and the way you ARE NOT

Then you will be free from torment

Most NT's are doing the best they can to accommodate and understand you (or you are surrounding yourself with the WRONG people)

Whichever way, you are not HELPING them

Drink a big glass of water, get to bed and dust yourself off in the morning and start again

LOVE to you x



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13 Mar 2009, 8:23 pm

Hey buddy!

I am an NT with a few Aspie traits but I want to say I understand why you feel so angry at those NT's that you talk of. It is the same reasons I am angry with many people - simply because you are different they think they are superior and therefore have the right to determine whether or not you are worthy of being in this world. But you know what - this world is for everyone. As long as you are not harming anyone, go ahead and be yourself because you have the right to. If people have a problem with it, then it is THEIR problem and they need to deal with it.

I can tell you that not all NT's are bad! I love Auties/Aspies! I have worked with a few and personally interacted with a few and I feel like my life has become enlightened because of it! I love talking with Aspies. With most NT's I have conversations... with Aspies I have experiences! Because of this I have actively begun seeking out Auties I can talk to, which is why I joined here. Since working with Autistic people I have begun educating myself on it all. And I try to let those I talk to know that they can be themselves around me, I do not want to restrict them :)
And I hope over time a few of the people on here will interact with me personally if they feel comfortable enough.

I hope you feel better in the morning dude and don't have a hang over :)

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13 Mar 2009, 9:44 pm

Sirunus wrote:
I believe I have lost faith in neurotypical people. They are too closed minded and intuitive that they will never accept me as their equal. It was them that oppressed us Aspergians, driving us to the edges of society where we are forgotten and excluded, pushing us to depressive illness and to the point of suicide. We are nothing but freaks in their world. They tell us we're a disease and the way we are is a disorder. They tell us we need to be cured and that society would be better off without us. They discriminate and oppress us in schools, both pupils and those in authority alike, until they have driven every last ounce of our self-esteem out of us. So-called friends will exclude us and no neurotypical girl will ever want us, simply because we are different and they are unable to embrace that. I have tried to stem my hatred for neurotypicals with all my power, but now that power is frail. We live in their world and we have to adapt to it. Since four times more males than females are diagnosed with Asperger's, we have to find supposedly NT girlfriends. It is a world where I am unable to thrive. Perhaps the rest of you have found ways of thriving in such an ignorant society, but the discrimination against us is far too great for me to ever embrace a neurotypical. They are our enemies, and they deserve to be punished for what they have done to us Aspergians.

Sorry for this drunken raving rant, but it's just how I feel at the moment. I am upset. Feel free to rip this incoherent rant apart.


I'm really with you. NT are so stupid and i hate them too. i'm not drunk but we need to rebel. NT are inferior being and we don't need them.(Yes i hate them at this point) We need to reclaim and claim in public(tv show,talk show,radio show)what NT make our life impossible at school or work. We are not a majority but we need a AS organisation for make our right a value and if not respected make the NT pay



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14 Mar 2009, 2:34 am

Learn how to manipulate them back. Buy a book.



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14 Mar 2009, 4:00 am

J-P wrote:

I'm really with you. NT are so stupid and i hate them too. i'm not drunk but we need to rebel. NT are inferior being and we don't need them.(Yes i hate them at this point) We need to reclaim and claim in public(tv show,talk show,radio show)what NT make our life impossible at school or work. We are not a majority but we need a AS organisation for make our right a value and if not respected make the NT pay


wow...

great life you've chosen there



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14 Mar 2009, 11:11 am

Well, after a long night's sleep pretty much all hatred in my system has died out. I was hurt and the things I said were probably rash. However, this thread has opened up an interesting discussion. Fnord, thanks for the constructive response.



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14 Mar 2009, 2:45 pm

I quite often feel this way too Sirinus, sometimes even while sober :p

and I don't believe that we have to adapt. there must be an alternative to following the mindless sheeple in their social games.

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14 Mar 2009, 6:43 pm

Wow, for a drunken rant. You sure are coherent. A lot of it is hypocritical too.



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14 Mar 2009, 6:58 pm

let it out! let it all out!

ARRRRR!! !! ! *kicks puppies and kittens*


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14 Mar 2009, 9:47 pm

J-P wrote:
Sirunus wrote:
I believe I have lost faith in neurotypical people. They are too closed minded and intuitive that they will never accept me as their equal. It was them that oppressed us Aspergians, driving us to the edges of society where we are forgotten and excluded, pushing us to depressive illness and to the point of suicide. We are nothing but freaks in their world. They tell us we're a disease and the way we are is a disorder. They tell us we need to be cured and that society would be better off without us. They discriminate and oppress us in schools, both pupils and those in authority alike, until they have driven every last ounce of our self-esteem out of us. So-called friends will exclude us and no neurotypical girl will ever want us, simply because we are different and they are unable to embrace that. I have tried to stem my hatred for neurotypicals with all my power, but now that power is frail. We live in their world and we have to adapt to it. Since four times more males than females are diagnosed with Asperger's, we have to find supposedly NT girlfriends. It is a world where I am unable to thrive. Perhaps the rest of you have found ways of thriving in such an ignorant society, but the discrimination against us is far too great for me to ever embrace a neurotypical. They are our enemies, and they deserve to be punished for what they have done to us Aspergians.

Sorry for this drunken raving rant, but it's just how I feel at the moment. I am upset. Feel free to rip this incoherent rant apart.


I'm really with you. NT are so stupid and i hate them too. i'm not drunk but we need to rebel. NT are inferior being and we don't need them.(Yes i hate them at this point) We need to reclaim and claim in public(tv show,talk show,radio show)what NT make our life impossible at school or work. We are not a majority but we need a AS organisation for make our right a value and if not respected make the NT pay


How will they punished? And why all the hate? Reminds me of skinheads. Seriously, where will all this hate get you? Do you really feel like you need to have a burning animosity towards people for seemingly inconsequential reasons.



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15 Mar 2009, 2:07 pm

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J-P wrote:
Sirunus wrote:
I believe I have lost faith in neurotypical people. They are too closed minded and intuitive that they will never accept me as their equal. It was them that oppressed us Aspergians, driving us to the edges of society where we are forgotten and excluded, pushing us to depressive illness and to the point of suicide. We are nothing but freaks in their world. They tell us we're a disease and the way we are is a disorder. They tell us we need to be cured and that society would be better off without us. They discriminate and oppress us in schools, both pupils and those in authority alike, until they have driven every last ounce of our self-esteem out of us. So-called friends will exclude us and no neurotypical girl will ever want us, simply because we are different and they are unable to embrace that. I have tried to stem my hatred for neurotypicals with all my power, but now that power is frail. We live in their world and we have to adapt to it. Since four times more males than females are diagnosed with Asperger's, we have to find supposedly NT girlfriends. It is a world where I am unable to thrive. Perhaps the rest of you have found ways of thriving in such an ignorant society, but the discrimination against us is far too great for me to ever embrace a neurotypical. They are our enemies, and they deserve to be punished for what they have done to us Aspergians.

Sorry for this drunken raving rant, but it's just how I feel at the moment. I am upset. Feel free to rip this incoherent rant apart.


I'm really with you. NT are so stupid and i hate them too. i'm not drunk but we need to rebel. NT are inferior being and we don't need them.(Yes i hate them at this point) We need to reclaim and claim in public(tv show,talk show,radio show)what NT make our life impossible at school or work. We are not a majority but we need a AS organisation for make our right a value and if not respected make the NT pay



How will they punished? And why all the hate? Reminds me of skinheads. Seriously, where will all this hate get you? Do you really feel like you need to have a burning animosity towards people for seemingly inconsequential reasons.



I don't know where is leading me but i hate them because of what made to me in school and incomprehensives peoples who don't understand AS and tells stupidities. Mix this two things and is a explosive recipe. I see a Autism specialist but health system of Canada(Yes i'm Canadian) suck dic* very hard. I see him nearly for 1 time a 2 years. That proof Canadian Health System is not healthy lol. And i don't have money to go in private system. WP is my only place for the moment for get helped