"If there is a gay gene why doesn't it get wiped out?"

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14 Jul 2019, 12:55 pm

An argument I've seen/heard from people who think being gay is a choice is "well, if there is a gay gene why hasn't it been wiped out? Gay couples can't reproduce to pass on the gene."



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14 Jul 2019, 1:01 pm

People like that aren't just idiots, they are a**holes.


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14 Jul 2019, 1:10 pm

Gay people can't reproduce? Since when?


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14 Jul 2019, 1:14 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Gay people can't reproduce? Since when?


I think he means they can't reproduce with each other. You have to have a male and female, one way or another, to create babies.


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14 Jul 2019, 1:15 pm

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
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Gay people can't reproduce? Since when?


I think he means they can't reproduce with each other. You have to have a male and female, one way or another, to create babies.


I know, but it's flawed thinking nonetheless. I know many gay people with biological children.


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14 Jul 2019, 1:15 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
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IsabellaLinton wrote:
Gay people can't reproduce? Since when?


I think he means they can't reproduce with each other. You have to have a male and female, one way or another, to create babies.


I know, but it's flawed thinking nonetheless. I know many gay people with biological children.


Oh ok :)


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14 Jul 2019, 1:24 pm

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
Gay people can't reproduce? Since when?


I think he means they can't reproduce with each other. You have to have a male and female, one way or another, to create babies.


I know, but it's flawed thinking nonetheless. I know many gay people with biological children.


Oh ok :)


It's possible for a gay man or woman to have a child with someone straight, but it's also possible that a gay man and gay woman have a child together. Not all people come out. The suggestion that they can't reproduce is ridiculous.


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14 Jul 2019, 1:27 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
Gay people can't reproduce? Since when?


I think he means they can't reproduce with each other. You have to have a male and female, one way or another, to create babies.


I know, but it's flawed thinking nonetheless. I know many gay people with biological children.


Oh ok :)


It's possible for a gay man or woman to have a child with someone straight, but it's also possible that a gay man and gay woman have a child together. Not all people come out. The suggestion that they can't reproduce is ridiculous.


I understand now. Also there are sperm clinics and surrogate mothers who have a couple's baby for them.


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14 Jul 2019, 1:29 pm

Gay people can reproduce the normal way. They can adopt. They can “hire” a woman as a surrogate.



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14 Jul 2019, 1:31 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Gay people can reproduce the normal way. They can adopt. They can “hire” a woman as a surrogate.

And lesbian couples can go to a sperm bank. :)


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14 Jul 2019, 1:31 pm

Of course they can....



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14 Jul 2019, 1:36 pm

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Gay people can reproduce the normal way. They can adopt. They can “hire” a woman as a surrogate.

And lesbian couples can go to a sperm bank. :)


And, gay men can make deposits at a sperm bank.


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14 Jul 2019, 1:39 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Gay people can reproduce the normal way. They can adopt. They can “hire” a woman as a surrogate.

And lesbian couples can go to a sperm bank. :)


And, gay men can make deposits at a sperm bank.


Yup! :)

I don't think I would feel comfortable doing that. :oops: Besides bipolar disorder is genetic and I wouldn't want to risk passing it to a poor kid. :(


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14 Jul 2019, 1:40 pm

Homosexuals can reproduce, they just prefer not to it by having intercourse with opposite sex because it feels as unnatural to them as it would feel to heterosexuals to have intercourse with the same sex.

Just like it feels as unnatural for a left-handed person to use their right hand the same way it would for a right-handed person to use their left hand.

And for an asexual person it feels unnatural no matter what someone else's gender is. And if someone says, "You just haven't met the right person yet," then I guess that means straight people haven't found the right gay person, and vice versa.



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14 Jul 2019, 2:07 pm

I heard some homosexuals claim that being gay wasn't a choice, it was their genetics. Saying it that way implies that there is a gay gene which would be phased out if homosexuals didn't reproduce. That line of reasoning would give homophobes an excuse to try to prevent homosexuals from reproducing which of corse would be BAD for the homosexual community.


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14 Jul 2019, 2:42 pm

Homosexuality not being a choice doesn't mean that it is caused by a gay gene that gets passed on. Homosexuality could also occur as a random mutation and in that case homosexuality would not go extinct even if gay people never reproduced.