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How do you see yourself?
Poll ended at 14 Nov 2010, 2:26 pm
In the first person (I would like you do tell bill I called) 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
In the second person (Could you tell bill that I called) 58%  58%  [ 7 ]
In the third person (Cound you tell bill that 'your name here' called) 25%  25%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 12

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16 Oct 2010, 1:22 pm

superboyian wrote:
I would see myself as the first person, the storyline all in my head are all in 1st person, sometimes 3rd.
I think of this alot in my head.


Do you feel 'angry' or does someone make you angry, or do you feel others anger.



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16 Oct 2010, 1:23 pm

superboyian wrote:
I would see myself as the first person, the storyline all in my head are all in 1st person, sometimes 3rd.
I think of this alot in my head.


Do you feel 'angry' or does someone make you angry, or do you feel others anger.



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16 Oct 2010, 1:27 pm

I should have really put'

How do you see yourself,

You can tell by that language you use to talk about yourself in relation to others, in a 'natural' context.

e.g not deliberately manipulating your language to the other persons,
I suppose 'deliberate' is a point of reference, more what are your 'Floridian' slips.



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16 Oct 2010, 2:02 pm

If the question is "do I consider myself firmly seated in this meat popsicle called a body" then yes. I am centered in this body and refer to myself as "I" and think of myself as "I".

As for all this discussion about what person you put first in sentences... that stuff, I don't understand wtf you're all talking about.



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16 Oct 2010, 2:03 pm

Asp-Z would never think about himself in the third person! :P

But no, when I talk about myself, I say "I".



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16 Oct 2010, 5:03 pm

OddFiction wrote:
If the question is "do I consider myself firmly seated in this meat popsicle called a body" then yes. I am centered in this body and refer to myself as "I" and think of myself as "I".

As for all this discussion about what person you put first in sentences... that stuff, I don't understand wtf you're all talking about.


Well, do you give you name to someone who knows you as the name that they call you, or as I.


So to my friend Jade who knows me really well, I will still say to her 'can you tell bill that olli says hello'.

I've used the name that she calls me (well in-fact the name that bill would call me), not what I would call myself.

If you asked me my name I would say it's Oliver.
If you where to ask me what to call me, I'd say anything you like.

That really flips some people out.



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16 Oct 2010, 5:11 pm

Valoyossa wrote:
Depends. If it's formal, I use first person (tell him I called, please).
If it's informal, I tell something like Comrade, tell him that We, Party, called him! In USSR you call the Party, so tell him to call us!



Comrade, can you, tell him..........

Assuming someone is the same as you is 2st or second person. (usually)

You think they think the same as you.

If someone asked me 'what does Joe think is inside the box',
Now adays 'How the hell do I know that, you'd have to ask Joe, for all I know she may think the aliens have landed'
when younger, either give no response, or just say what I thought.
otherwise too many possibles.



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16 Oct 2010, 5:16 pm

blahbla wrote:
what happened to 4th person?


Well either the 'out of body' (looking at your self from 'outside' your body) experience type 4th person
or
possibly 5th/6th person.
When I get the I see someone presenting myself to me in an abstract form, telling myself how to work with myself in this abstract form and correcting the way I an working with this abstract form of myself.

but only in dreams.



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16 Oct 2010, 5:23 pm

The reason for asking is that my more ASD friends all seem to do the third person thing,
my more ADHD type friends the Second person way.
At the people who don't understand me [and usually fit in with the system], the 1st person type way.

My Schizoid friends are more 'me me me' and attach themselves to things.

[though there's quite a bit of bias in that, there usually very thoughtful, but also in a selfish way.
The ones on meds are complete and utter cabbages,
the ones not on meds are usually quite normal apart from a bit of an obsessive interest they've attached themselves to.
The ones I would not say are Schizoid have in-site so they don't fit the diagnosis criteria, some got hospitalized after med rebound, and completely screwed up for a good while.
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and of course their are more types of people.



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16 Oct 2010, 6:10 pm

oliverthered wrote:
Moog wrote:
I used to talk in the 3rd person, but people found it too weird.


So, your third person. 1st and 2dn person people. can't think that way, or even imagine it!

(that's why they think your too weird, they can't think you)


I'm not sure, I think I was maybe just experimenting.


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16 Oct 2010, 6:41 pm

Moog wrote:
oliverthered wrote:
Moog wrote:
I used to talk in the 3rd person, but people found it too weird.


So, your third person. 1st and 2dn person people. can't think that way, or even imagine it!

(that's why they think your too weird, they can't think you)


I'm not sure, I think I was maybe just experimenting.


for s**ts and giggles?

or to see how they would react and what they where thinking.

i.e. did you know they where gona find it odd?
or where you seeing how other people responded.

'I'm not sure, I think I was maybe just experimenting'
he he, that's a weird bit of language.

'I'm not sure...., I think I was, ummm maybe... just experimenting'



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16 Oct 2010, 7:06 pm

oliverthered wrote:
Moog wrote:
oliverthered wrote:
Moog wrote:
I used to talk in the 3rd person, but people found it too weird.


So, your third person. 1st and 2dn person people. can't think that way, or even imagine it!

(that's why they think your too weird, they can't think you)


I'm not sure, I think I was maybe just experimenting.


for s**ts and giggles?

or to see how they would react and what they where thinking.

i.e. did you know they where gona find it odd?
or where you seeing how other people responded.

'I'm not sure, I think I was maybe just experimenting'
he he, that's a weird bit of language.

'I'm not sure...., I think I was, ummm maybe... just experimenting'



Thank you! ((((all))))



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16 Oct 2010, 7:09 pm

Thank you! ((((all))))

Yeh, the you often needs some explaining...


Well if I meant you you I would have put your name first, since there was more than one person on the tread and others may read it, I used you and you and you and you and sometime I'm you too.



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16 Oct 2010, 8:48 pm

oliverthered wrote:
Moog wrote:
oliverthered wrote:
Moog wrote:
I used to talk in the 3rd person, but people found it too weird.


So, your third person. 1st and 2dn person people. can't think that way, or even imagine it!

(that's why they think your too weird, they can't think you)


I'm not sure, I think I was maybe just experimenting.


for s**ts and giggles?

or to see how they would react and what they where thinking.

i.e. did you know they where gona find it odd?
or where you seeing how other people responded.

'I'm not sure, I think I was maybe just experimenting'
he he, that's a weird bit of language.

'I'm not sure...., I think I was, ummm maybe... just experimenting'


Yeah, I like how s**t gets censored, but not the plural.

I don't know, just trying different ways of being. I like playing with stuff.

It didn't stick and I soon fell back in line with all the normies. 8)


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16 Oct 2010, 9:02 pm

Moog wrote:
oliverthered wrote:
Moog wrote:
oliverthered wrote:
Moog wrote:
I used to talk in the 3rd person, but people found it too weird.


So, your third person. 1st and 2dn person people. can't think that way, or even imagine it!

(that's why they think your too weird, they can't think you)


I'm not sure, I think I was maybe just experimenting.


for s**ts and giggles?

or to see how they would react and what they where thinking.

i.e. did you know they where gona find it odd?
or where you seeing how other people responded.

'I'm not sure, I think I was maybe just experimenting'
he he, that's a weird bit of language.

'I'm not sure...., I think I was, ummm maybe... just experimenting'


Yeah, I like how sh** gets censored, but not the plural.

I don't know, just trying different ways of being. I like playing with stuff.

It didn't stick and I soon fell back in line with all the normies. 8)


he he, that would be a knowledge of mind, not a theory of one!

I have no idea what so ever how I manage to get away talking in the third person so much,
I guess I just practiced a lot, and avoided the un-avoidable.

lots of apologies.......

GMC good medical practice says a Dr should put himself in the third person, so that's not soo much of an issue. (but at the moment the shrink is on some god bothering mission I think)
Patient
Science
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or the second person. e.g.
If I where you I'd take the pills.....
not
You must take the pills.

Or
I think your an idiot.
Not
You are an idiot.



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16 Oct 2010, 9:04 pm

So, why exactly shouldn't I talk in the third person all the time.

Let's see what happens,

Oh, the NTs don't understand me.