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Do you like sushi?!
Yes... It's one of my favorite foods. 50%  50%  [ 20 ]
Yes. 20%  20%  [ 8 ]
On occasion I like it. 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
No! 20%  20%  [ 8 ]
Eww... sushi? Isn't that raw dog? 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
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30 Dec 2010, 3:50 am

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if you never ever have had really fresh fish, you won't ever understand what i am talking about... nor would you understand that fresh fish doesn't need any spicing at all... and tastes wonderful and very unique for every different sort of fish.


Sounds like you would love sushi. :P Though I would recommend sashimi for you (just slices of raw fish with no rice or other ingredients). You can really enjoy the flavors and textures of each different fish this way.

And, in fact, sushi is almost always very fresh. That is part of the reason for the expense--it can't be frozen and shipped around. Some places will even let you choose your own live fish out of a tank, but that is more expensive and not terribly common. And if you're in need of credentials: I grew up on a marina. I know all about fresh seafood.


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30 Dec 2010, 4:18 am

Kaybee wrote:
aspi-rant wrote:
if you never ever have had really fresh fish, you won't ever understand what i am talking about... nor would you understand that fresh fish doesn't need any spicing at all... and tastes wonderful and very unique for every different sort of fish.


Sounds like you would love sushi. :P Though I would recommend sashimi for you (just slices of raw fish with no rice or other ingredients). You can really enjoy the flavors and textures of each different fish this way.

And, in fact, sushi is almost always very fresh. That is part of the reason for the expense--it can't be frozen and shipped around. Some places will even let you choose your own live fish out of a tank, but that is more expensive and not terribly common. And if you're in need of credentials: I grew up on a marina. I know all about fresh seafood.


fresh fish to me hasn't been dead longer than at most 15-30 minutes... after that the fish smell and tastes begins. even if you chill or freeze it...

so no. sushi is usually not fresh fish (with extreme few exceptions, like those you mention).

that is why they spice it. ;-)

i live on a little island... and have lots of fish available when i sail out... and fetch the fresh fish i need.... myself or the kids... and then keep them alive until i prepare them...

they usually are prepared and consumed within 30 minutes after they died...

see, thát is fresh fish. and cheap. :lol:

oh... btw... the fish from local fisherman sold at the marina here is... well... not really fresh... most fish are caught many hours before they are sold and the dead fish are kept on ice to stay "fresh".

i never buy them.

but some of the fisherman here have also some live fish in the water by their boat for own consumption... ;-) ... and if you know them well, you might get lucky and can buy some... fast food! nam nam. :lol:



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30 Dec 2010, 4:48 am

I used to just goto rock pools along the coast when I lived in Yorkshire. Foraging for the food along the coast was great, even at this time of year you could find all sorts there.

The english are really stupid fussy eaters when it comes to going out and getting fresh food yourself so I find the coastline is an absolute feast for food. The only real barrier to eating stuff is the quality of the water on that particular part of the coastline. I.e. Around the Sellafield nuclear powerplant is probably not a good idea given that they emit radioactive substances into the environment via discharges into the sea.

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30 Dec 2010, 5:37 am

I love a good fresh sashami and lion rolls yum, but can only affford it sometimes



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30 Dec 2010, 6:40 am

I love sushi! :)

I would seriously eat it every day if I could.



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30 Dec 2010, 11:30 am

At the risk of sounding ret*d because I started this thread... what's the difference between sushi and sashimi? :oops:


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30 Dec 2010, 11:46 am

As it was mentioned a bit earlier in this thread:

sushi - raw fish with rice, vegetables and/or algae
sashimi - just raw fish cut into pieces

Sushi is quite popular where I live, but sashimi is hardly ever offered, so it might be that you have not come across it yourself, either. :)


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30 Dec 2010, 12:17 pm

FluffyDog wrote:
As it was mentioned a bit earlier in this thread:

sushi - raw fish with rice, vegetables and/or algae
sashimi - just raw fish cut into pieces

Sushi is quite popular where I live, but sashimi is hardly ever offered, so it might be that you have not come across it yourself, either. :)


Thank you for the description :). I live in America and the restaurants usually seem to have some pretty exotic stuff. Maybe I've just never tried sashimi? Is sashimi a thin slice of fish/shrimp on a tiny block of rice? If so that's why I didn't know. I have a hard time with sushi that I can't swallow whole and those block of rice with fish on top things are very hard to do that with (I end up gaging on them because there's too much) :?.


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30 Dec 2010, 12:24 pm

As far as I know, sashimi is a piece of raw fish (or shrimp or other animal from the sea) that has been cut so it can fit into a person's mouth relatively easily. Period. Maybe rice can be served as a side dish, but sashimi itself is just chopped fish.

In Japanese, I think there is different terms for rolled sushi and for sushi that look more a block of rice with fish on top, but I cannot recall those terms. Maybe Wikipedia can help here?

edit: Of course Wikipedia can help. :) Here you go! And a more general article on sushi is here.


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30 Dec 2010, 12:33 pm

Thank you again FluffyDog :). It appears what I was talking about was Nigirizushi. I've never had sashimi, nor does it look like I've ever seen it in a restaurant that I've been to. Seems a bit strange because sashimi doesn't seem too exotic. I wonder why I've not seen it :?


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30 Dec 2010, 1:28 pm

I reckon many Europeans are wary of eating raw (sea) fish as that had to be transported a long way by cart or boat in the Middle Ages and was prone to go bad on the way. Thus, fish was simply not eaten raw a lot, I guess. It's the same thing with most other animals - pork, beef and mutton used to be stored salted or smoked to prevent them from going bad, so eating them raw does not apeal to many Europeans even with today's improved methods of tranportation and conversation.

I can imagine that raw fish appears even less palatable to some people than raw beef (eg in the form of carpacchio), because the texture can be somewhat slimy if the fish is not properly prepared and many people do not fancy slimy food around here.

With sushi, there is still the appeal of the food looking nice and there being some rice and other stuff to make it appear less like a chunk of raw animal, but in sashimi I reckon the raw-fish-aspect is simply to obvious for many Europeans. And I reckon all this holds true for members of other "western" cultures as well. ;-)


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30 Dec 2010, 1:36 pm

FluffyDog wrote:
I reckon many Europeans are wary of eating raw (sea) fish as that had to be transported a long way by cart or boat in the Middle Ages and was prone to go bad on the way. Thus, fish was simply not eaten raw a lot, I guess. It's the same thing with most other animals - pork, beef and mutton used to be stored salted or smoked to prevent them from going bad, so eating them raw does not apeal to many Europeans even with today's improved methods of tranportation and conversation.

I can imagine that raw fish appears even less palatable to some people than raw beef (eg in the form of carpacchio), because the texture can be somewhat slimy if the fish is not properly prepared and many people do not fancy slimy food around here.

With sushi, there is still the appeal of the food looking nice and there being some rice and other stuff to make it appear less like a chunk of raw animal, but in sashimi I reckon the raw-fish-aspect is simply to obvious for many Europeans. And I reckon all this holds true for members of other "western" cultures as well. ;-)


Eating raw fish is still quite common in Scandinavia. I'm not so sure about the "slimy" thing either - snails are pretty popular in Belgium and France :P

Personally, I prefer sashimi to sushi, but it has to be very very fresh indeed.

I also enjoy carpaccio and steak tartare, but anybody who wants to eat that must ensure the quality and freshness of the meat.

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30 Dec 2010, 1:50 pm

Not really, I tried it once when my old friend took some into school and it tasted like cod liver oil tablets.


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30 Dec 2010, 1:53 pm

Okay, with regard to what Sallamandrina wrote, I'll correct myself and ask that "Europeans" be read as "inland Europeans". Of course things are bound to look a bit different for people who live reasonably close to the coast (as is the case with many Scandinavians) and had access to relatively fresh sea fish even before food could be frozen and transported quickly.

And yes, I agree that all kinds of raw animal food ought to be as fresh and prepared with as much consideration of hygienic standards as possible.


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30 Dec 2010, 1:56 pm

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argh... :duh: :silent:

by the time this is prepared and put together and brought to you... the fish is rotten. it takes hours!! !

barf!


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30 Dec 2010, 2:05 pm

FluffyDog wrote:
Okay, with regard to what Sallamandrina wrote, I'll correct myself and ask that "Europeans" be read as "inland Europeans". Of course things are bound to look a bit different for people who live reasonably close to the coast (as is the case with many Scandinavians) and had access to relatively fresh sea fish even before food could be frozen and transported quickly.

And yes, I agree that all kinds of raw animal food ought to be as fresh and prepared with as much consideration of hygienic standards as possible.



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i don't agree that any kind of raw animal food should be as fresh as possible...

when eating deer, boar, duck or other wild you hunt... you have to hang it for a certain amount of time and have it "rot" a little to bring out the best of it.... sometimes for several days.... so the flavor becomes more pronounced.

meat tastes better like that.

you can't wait more than 30 minutes before fish tastes and smells like fish... simple as that.