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20 Feb 2011, 1:45 pm

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Hi Arian---yes, Jack the Ripper is often considered the #1 on greatest murder mysteries. I enjoyed your post---I think a lot of our interest in serial killers/unsolved murders/mysterious crimes lies in our Asperger's thinking---analyzing and looking for small details in order to solve complex problems. Many of these crimes offer plenty to analyze and definite challenges. With Jack the Ripper, we know of the victims, but it is the identity of the killer that is the mystery. We may find great interest in analyzing clues to his identity and carefully scrutinizing possible suspects to look for patterns, etc. Some of us may find great fascination with the codes left by the Zodiac Killer. I think we would make great detectives for cold case files. Often times the greater the challenge, the greater our interest. That is why I chose the Boy in the Box mystery---not only is the killer unknown, the identity of the murdered boy is also unknown. This is like finding a missing needle in a haystack.


I hesistate to use the word 'fun', considering the subject matter... but it is, isn't it! Like a puzzle which just has to be solved!



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20 Feb 2011, 2:18 pm

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And everyone thinks I'm weird for trying to find a correlation between serial killer methodology and geography! Nice to find somewhere where it seems normal and not an indication of homicidal tendencies :).

I'd go for The Green River Killer, Jack The Stripper, Zodiac or The Black Dahlia, except people are pretty sure they knew who did those murders, they just can't prove it.

Jack The Ripper has to be the ultimate unsolvable one, surely?


I believe that both the Green River Killer and the Zodiac Killer have been identified. One that still hasn't been identified is Jon-Benet Ramsey's killer.


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20 Feb 2011, 2:31 pm

Fogman, who is the Zodiac?


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20 Feb 2011, 3:10 pm

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Fogman, who is the Zodiac?


I don't recall who it was, but there was a program about it a few years ago on Discovery Channel.


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20 Feb 2011, 3:25 pm

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My pick for the most mysterious murder in history happened around February 25, 1957, and the victim was found in Fox Chase, Pennsylvania on the street I showed a picture of in a previous post on this thread. The victim was a 4-6 year old boy that was found stuffed in a cardboard box beside the road.

Why is this most mysterious in my opinion? The murderer's identity is not known. And no one seems to have any information about the murderer's identity. The identity of the murdered boy is not known. In fact, no one seems to know anything about the murder except that a deceased boy was found in the cardboard box beside the road.

I caution anyone about researching "The Boy in the Box" because of the graphic depictions of this case. The only photographs known of the victim are after death, and some of these photographs were widely distributed in hopes of finding his identity. To this day he is simply called "America's Unknown Child." This case deeply bothers me. I find it so tragic that a little boy, who showed signs of abuse while living, should have suffered such a fate---and then to die with his identity unknown. After death he was stuffed in a throw away box and tossed in refuge alongside a road to be forgotten. Had he not been found, there's no telling how long it would have taken for him to be discovered. He was originally buried in a potter's field alongside criminals. But recently he has been moved to a city cemetery and had DNA samples taken to try to determine his identity. Today, nothing new seems to be known about him. People regularly place toys on his monument---toys that he probably never had the luxury of playing with during the short time he was alive. Some plausible theories suggest he may have had some "mental" condition. In looking at one of the distributed death photographs, he appears to have a moebius mouth shape. I have a theory that he may have been autistic since many autistic babies are born with a moebius mouth shape.

I invite debate on this case because at this point, debate is about all we have to go on with this tragic case. I pray that some day we may know the truth behind this case---without doubt one of the most baffling in history.


I remember hearing about this little boy years ago but I don't know the details that surround his murder to debate it but I plan on reading about him today. How could someone do that to a little child? I only hope there is justice in the after life for the monster who beat and killed this little boy.

There was a building that was torn down years ago in downtown Norfolk. They found the skelton of a young female who was killed many years ago while the building was being constructed. No one knew who she was and what exactly happened.

It makes me wonder how many people have been murdered and their killer is never brought to justice, tried, convicted and punished for what they did. I wonder how many murders go unsolved every year?

I have a strange fascination with death and forensics. I use to watch the real shows about it on TV all the time. I was a big CourtTV fan for a while there.


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20 Feb 2011, 3:33 pm

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Wikipedia mentioned that the crime scene was completely muddled by investigators. Possibly the locked-entries mystery is an artifact of that?
Could be, I read that everyone was parading through the house checking out the murdered victims. No doubt they destroyed evidence by doing that.


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20 Feb 2011, 3:51 pm

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I believe that both the Green River Killer and the Zodiac Killer have been identified. One that still hasn't been identified is Jon-Benet Ramsey's killer.


The Green River killer was identified as Gary Ridgway. The Zodiac has not been conclusively identified yet. I watched a doccie on History Channel that pretty much stated who they think he was. Can't remember the name though. It was quite an unusual name, but the person is now deceased.



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23 Apr 2011, 6:52 pm

Because of the particularly heinous nature of the murders, the marked notariety of the case in spite of an earlier era that did not have 24 hour media, and the enduring legacy of the case that has endured and become both a household name and vernacular, it is my belief that the murders of Jack the Ripper is the greatest murder mystery in history. I suspect more has been written and Hollywood has spent more celluloid on this case than any other.