Who here loves fighter jets? VERY IMAGE HEAVY BEWARE!

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Sorry, got carried away. I did put a warning but I guess I'll cut down in the future. Thought folks would like pics more but it was a bit excessive, I admit.

Yeah, probably. Saves lives too but I love jets and the thought depresses me in a selfish way. Jets have such a beautiful aesthetic appeal to them, such a great shape and I love reading about all the dog fighting stories of the Vietnam and Gulf War.

I like the Saab 37 Viggen a lot.



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It looked badass and sophisticated at the same time.

I do too, its a very good design. I prefer it to the Draken. Gripen is cool too...not sure how I feel the Eurofighter.

Love fighter planes too. BTW, I remember we had the A-7's based here near Pittsburgh, the A-7's were based on the F-8 fighter. We also had F-102's here along with F-86's and P-51's.

A-7's were beautiful, awesome, GREAT planes! My next update is going to be on the A-7 and A6. I believe I've seen the one A-7 either parked near Pittsburgh or West Virginia on display. F-8 Crusader is really great too, I was sad I could find so few good pics of it ..in fact I fear some are of A-7s. It got to fly less sorties than the F-4 phantoms but it had the best ratio of kills to being shot down and that makes it awesome for being pretty much a relic when it was sent off to Vietnam. By "relic" I mean most people assumed guns and dog fighting were long gone..how wrong they were. Even Operation Desert Shield had several dog fights.

Not the biggest fan of the Century series outside of the F-100 and F-105, though I may end up endeared toward them as I do pic searching and researching. People use to say the Century jets were "cursed" because they had a myriad of production problems and often fatal control/flight issues. Like the "sabre" dance for the F-100:

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The guy who said he loved seeing jets blown up or crashing will be a fan of this no doubt.

Lol sorry if you guys hate pic spam, I just enjoy posting stuff in the topic. I'll try to go easier on it on the future since it is a bit excessive..though when it comes time to post F-15s..

The A-7 Corsair, a truly awesome plane that first saw use in the Vietnam war. To the naked eye the A-7 appears virtually identical to the F-8 crusader, it was based off of the air frame after all, but both planes served very different roles. While some thought the concept of the F-8 outdated (a gun dogfighter) the A-7 was proposed as a higher-tech replacement for the A-1 skyraider, an actual prop plane still being used at the time to fulfill the role of close air support. It was a very advanced plane at the time of introduction and served very well in the entire southeastern asia conflict, losing only 6 planes.

After the Vietnam War the A-7 served in several small skirmishes but the most notable that comes to mind is Operation Praying Mantis where Corsairs sunk several Iranian frigates that were harassing USN ships. This was during the time of the Iraq-Iran war. The plane was retired by the early 90s. The jet still serves with several airforces, such as Greece. I personally like the A-7's design a little more than the F-8, even though they appear virtually identical. I think the nose of the A-7 is a bit shorter, maybe the wings are too, I can't tell. The plane is very cool to me and has a very neat look. I feel the same way about the A-6 Intruder as well. I think Navy pilots would have preferred flying the F-14 instead since apparently the A-7 was quite slow. I love the FAST jets like the F-15 and Tomcat but I think all true aviation buffs have a special place in their heart for designs like the Corsair and Crusader.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YfaOwUJ ... re=related Let's all go back in time to the 70s and enjoy some history and miserable sounding narrators.

Cool ! a girl who's into jet fighters

He's a guy with a female in his avatar.

Oh I see, lol sorry

These items of war cost untold trillions (not billions) of dollars and have mostly been used to kill innocent civilians since WW2.
What a shame the war mongering American bullies can't spend the money to create and care for people rather than destroying them.

Why is it that any small, defenseless country who disagrees with US foreign policy instantly become "the bad guys"; fair game to be slaughtered?

Your first statement is complete, arbitrary, possibly trolling BS. I won't disagree that these airplanes take innocent lives but a lot of the most lethal weapons to civilians (such as the cluster bomb) have
been practically phased out because of their effect on civilian populations.

There is some truth to see this but not everything is black and white. The US doesn't do all the invading (or didn't in the past), I was too young to understand the first Persian Gulf War but realize it stemmed from the Iraq-Iran war and Iraq invading Kuwait afterwards and US reacting (of course because of fear Iraq would try to invade Saudi Arabia and have control over tons of oil). There's also the fact that the US, Israel and other countries supplied Iraq with weaponry during the Iraq-Iran war just because of the Iran coup and other stuff.

I just like airplanes, have since I was a kid and I'm sorry that offends you. I find them beautiful to look at and love to go to airshows and see them fly. I think you should go to the politics forum if you want to turn this topic into something that it isn't, its not I'm glorifying the US blowing everyone up and I'm being pretty objective. I also have an equal love for aviation throughout the world, as evident by my posting early on. Before I shut up I'll say this though: I totally disagreed with the second Persian Gulf War and thought it was nothing but motivation for Oil (the first one was too but it was less transparent since Kuwait was invaded). Also the US is not the only country that has "bullied" and killed innocent civilians. Try looking up stuff like Iraq-Iran the Russian-Afganistan War.

Also consider that a lot of these "billions" of dollars used (at least by the US) are spent so that weaponry is more accurate and takes less innocent lives. I'm not going to defend every single thing the United State does with its spending, in fact I really disagree with military spending lately and the failure F-22 program that costs waaaaay too much. Airpower is just part of war, why not go complain in a topic with people discussing guns and firearms? Those take a lot more lives every year (estimate here I'm willing to bet on since it costs actual money to sortie out a jet each missions) and are readily available to civilians (in the US at least).

I don't want to turn this topic into a political platform, I'm finished. I'm not the biggest fan of my country and what it does anymore but I'd prefer stuff stay positive here. Besides, its evident its mostly me posting here anyway, I just like sharing my own pics and knowledge even if less than 1% of people care. That doesn't bother me, I'm not whining. Just don't go posting (factually wrong)trolly stuff that doesn't accomplish anything at all. Go complain about war mongering Americans somewhere else, that is the most tired, unoriginal cliche ever anyway.

You know what? I don't even care if you're right about what you say. Just don't take it here. Before you go type up a response that's no doubt more eloquent and well thought out than mine. I don't want to derail this topic further, which will happen if we get into some kind of pointless argument. I hate politics and this isn't the topic for them.