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18 Nov 2012, 1:30 pm

On the rare occasions that Jehovah's Witnesses bother me, I just tell them I'm an atheist Buddhist, which completely baffles them and then they leave; probably under the illusion I'm some sort of demon. :lol:


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18 Nov 2012, 4:04 pm

Actually, I believe that your comment is accurate;
Did not the Buddha Siddhartha Gautama teach that there is no deity as such, but rather a divine nothingness, ie, Nirvana?

Though the meaning of the word 'atheism' means to be against a belief in God or gods, doesn't it?

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18 Nov 2012, 4:39 pm

Sylkat wrote:
Actually, I believe that your comment is accurate;
Did not the Buddha Siddhartha Gautama teach that there is no deity as such, but rather a divine nothingness, ie, Nirvana?

Though the meaning of the word 'atheism' means to be against a belief in God or gods, doesn't it?

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Nirvana is beyond any concepts of divine, deism, nothingness or duality. I do not believe in any gods and I am a Zen Buddhist. I could write 10,000 words to try to explain this but my words would miss and fail to convey understanding.


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18 Nov 2012, 4:51 pm

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Though I understand and respect feeling that they are into your personal space, they are doing what they believe is offering the best thing in the world to people.
Both the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses have been persecuted for their beliefs and practices, and I respect that their groups still exist, considering the costs that they have paid.
The Nazis nearly exterminated all German Witnesses, and many of the first generation Mormons were publically tortured, Their prophet was murdered in a jail cell.
I want people to accept me and my odd personality and neurological differences, and I try to accept other people and their differing opinions.

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That is exactly the issue. Personal space. I respect that other people have their own beliefs, but it is not acceptable to intrude on other peoples' lives to promote them. I feel this way about anyone coming to my door, be it for religious reasons or a political issue. Home is the last place a person should be bothered with such things.



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18 Nov 2012, 5:23 pm

Sylkat wrote:

Though the meaning of the word 'atheism' means to be against a belief in God or gods, doesn't it?

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That's why Satanism is a form of atheism. Satanists are against the christian beliefs of God and the Devil, and heaven/hell.



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18 Nov 2012, 5:36 pm

Blasty wrote:
Sylkat wrote:
Though I understand and respect feeling that they are into your personal space, they are doing what they believe is offering the best thing in the world to people.
Both the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses have been persecuted for their beliefs and practices, and I respect that their groups still exist, considering the costs that they have paid.
The Nazis nearly exterminated all German Witnesses, and many of the first generation Mormons were publically tortured, Their prophet was murdered in a jail cell.
I want people to accept me and my odd personality and neurological differences, and I try to accept other people and their differing opinions.

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That is exactly the issue. Personal space. I respect that other people have their own beliefs, but it is not acceptable to intrude on other peoples' lives to promote them. I feel this way about anyone coming to my door, be it for religious reasons or a political issue. Home is the last place a person should be bothered with such things.


It's not like they're breaking down your door, or breaking a window to get into your home. Like I said, be polite to them and simply say you don't discuss your religious beliefs with complete strangers. There really are people who listen to them and "convert" to their religion, so they believe this is their "duty".


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18 Nov 2012, 6:27 pm

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today, one of the church people was knocking on my door. i didn't answer because i was not going to talk to them. it been a while since they came by and it pissed me off that they picked this day to bother me. i want them to leave me the hell alone.


A nest of wasps above the door can help persuade them to leave you alone. When I had one above my door, I never had to worry much about anyone bothering me.

One year the wasps started getting more and more aggressive and so I felt compelled to kill them. By that time, the nest was more than a foot across.



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18 Nov 2012, 6:42 pm

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I'd treat them like any other person trying to sell me something. I'd either not answer the door or say, "sorry, I'm not interested" and shut the door and go back in.

None ever came to my house but we keep getting ones that want us to change our utility company.


I have a do not knock sticker to stop the salesmen but when they do knock I point to the sticker and they reckon they didn't see it :roll:

There should be one for god botherers too.



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18 Nov 2012, 7:03 pm

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I'd treat them like any other person trying to sell me something. I'd either not answer the door or say, "sorry, I'm not interested" and shut the door and go back in.

None ever came to my house but we keep getting ones that want us to change our utility company.


I have a do not knock sticker to stop the salesmen but when they do knock I point to the sticker and they reckon they didn't see it :roll:

There should be one for god botherers too.


At the office, we have a "No Soliciting" sign at the door. Occasionally someone will come in wanting to sell something. I try to run them off but the suckers I work with are more interested in looking at the crap they are selling.

One day someone came in claiming to have been making deliveries to local restaurants and had some extra "restaurant quality" meat for sale. He refused to say which restaurants. I figured he was lying -- the only regular restaurant in town is next to the office and their deliveries are at like five or six in the morning, not while they were open for business.

I tried to drive him off, but one of the cow-orkers wanted him to stay. Sure enough, she bought a bunch of really overpriced meat of dubious quality. I asked someone from City Hall about it and he said that there had been some complaints. It seems that he had been there before selling "restaurant quality" meat and guaranteeing the quality but when someone wants to return what is left for their money back, there is no way to get ahold of them.



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18 Nov 2012, 8:27 pm

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Aprilviolets wrote:
hanyo wrote:
I'd treat them like any other person trying to sell me something. I'd either not answer the door or say, "sorry, I'm not interested" and shut the door and go back in.

None ever came to my house but we keep getting ones that want us to change our utility company.


I have a do not knock sticker to stop the salesmen but when they do knock I point to the sticker and they reckon they didn't see it :roll:

There should be one for god botherers too.


At the office, we have a "No Soliciting" sign at the door. Occasionally someone will come in wanting to sell something. I try to run them off but the suckers I work with are more interested in looking at the crap they are selling.

One day someone came in claiming to have been making deliveries to local restaurants and had some extra "restaurant quality" meat for sale. He refused to say which restaurants. I figured he was lying -- the only regular restaurant in town is next to the office and their deliveries are at like five or six in the morning, not while they were open for business.

I tried to drive him off, but one of the cow-orkers wanted him to stay. Sure enough, she bought a bunch of really overpriced meat of dubious quality. I asked someone from City Hall about it and he said that there had been some complaints. It seems that he had been there before selling "restaurant quality" meat and guaranteeing the quality but when someone wants to return what is left for their money back, there is no way to get ahold of them.


When I see a vague comment like "restaurant quality", i think suitable for McDonald's. Same for other meaningless terms such as "perfect" or "premium". Once worked in a small office setting and the entrance had a clear "No Soliciting" placard, which was almost always ignored.

A prior post is having me thinking of display a Flying Spaghetti Monster sign for any proselytizers that come my way.



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18 Nov 2012, 8:31 pm

Many years ago there was a Playboy cartoon of a kind of creepy/haunted/evil genius house with a sign hanging on the gate that said "Tresspassers will be experimented upon".



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18 Nov 2012, 9:07 pm

I find it far more offensive when some one can not explain their faith or lack there of.



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18 Nov 2012, 9:15 pm

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Answer the door wearing nothing but an open bath robe. Act like nothing is amiss.

Anyone who goes around knocking on doors should expect to catch a few people at the wrong time, right?


I do knock on doors and stuff like this HAS happened lol! (actually the guy was in his boxers)
I'd prefer honesty to the "I'm gonna scare you" route. I have spoken to confessed wiccans (sp.?) and anyone else who had something they wanted to discuss. (The guy at that house {the witch one} was curious if the Bible had anything in it about the water cycle, you know clouds, rain, rivers...) I do leave if people are truly not interested. If you wonder why we Jehovah's Witnesses come around more than once, It's not to pester anyone. We just want everyone to have a chance to hear what we have to say. People do move, have exchange students, stuff like that. I'm sorry the OP was offended. That is never my intention or the intention of anyone else I've ever worked with going door to door.

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Funny one, are you sure you don't want a response? :D :wink:

I respect all of you here. Please just realize we mean no disrespect. Our intention is that of a friendly visit, not a sales pitch.
It does sometimes come across more salesman like to some though, I guess.


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18 Nov 2012, 9:23 pm

Blasty wrote:
Answer the door wearing nothing but an open bath robe. Act like nothing is amiss.


Why the bath robe?

I talked to someone about twenty years ago who was obviously not very shy. When he saw someone he thought were Jehovah's Witnesses walking up the sidewalk, he'd take off his clothes and wait. When they knocked, he would answer the door and invite them in to chat. According to him, none ever accepted that invitation.



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18 Nov 2012, 9:30 pm

By the way, I used to have an office above an office used by the Mormons to operate a mission. They were all pretty nice people.

Every year, I'd invite the missionaries to bring their bicycles to the Houston Moonlight Ramble, but they were never able to show up. The Houston Moonlight Ramble (I assume it's still much the same as when I lived in that area) is a two am Sunday morning bicycle ride around the streets of Houston close to Halloween. When I lived in the Houston area, the Moonlight Ramble was always one of my favorite events of the year. Apparently their only free time was on Mondays from noon to six pm -- the rest of the time was reserved for their missionary duties.



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18 Nov 2012, 10:00 pm

Throw water balloons at them once they get mad say don't worry is only holy water!


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