FIRST IMAGE OF PLANET ORBITING SUN-LIKE STAR!! !! ! OMG!! !

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18 Sep 2008, 2:59 pm

There mere fact that "everybody says" thus-and-such does not make it true. The mere fact that "the Mayans believed" the same thing means even less, as they were primitive stone-aged people whose only claim to fame is that they could count up to 365 before anyone else.

Besides, theories are supported by facts, not legends, so where are those orbital and trajectory elements for Nibiru that I asked for?

Nowhere, it seems ...


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18 Sep 2008, 3:02 pm

Anyways its like what 50lightyears away it would take a loooooooooooooooooooooot loger than just 3 1/3 years to reach us... :? ( it would take somthing traveling at the speed of light 50... 8) )


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18 Sep 2008, 3:05 pm

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Anyways its like what 50lightyears away it would take a loooooooooooooooooooooot loger than just 3 1/3 years to reach us... :? ( it would take somthing traveling at the speed of light 50... 8) )

It would take violations of more than one law of physics. The causality and the asympotic speed of light, for examples. Plus, there is not enough energy in the entire universe to accelerate even a single grain of sand to the speed of light.

It's just not possible.


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18 Sep 2008, 3:07 pm

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Anyways its like what 50lightyears away it would take a loooooooooooooooooooooot loger than just 3 1/3 years to reach us... :? ( it would take somthing traveling at the speed of light 50... 8) )


Possibly, but maybe it' not the planet we think it is.. who knows.. maybe it doesn't exist at all.. Although I should repeat myself, and say it's not supposed to collide with earth. It will come close enough to cause disasters... in outer space, that could be a lightyear away if the planet is big enough.



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18 Sep 2008, 3:08 pm

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Relicanth7 wrote:
Anyways its like what 50lightyears away it would take a loooooooooooooooooooooot loger than just 3 1/3 years to reach us... :? ( it would take somthing traveling at the speed of light 50... 8) )

It would take violations of more than one law of physics. The causality and the asympotic speed of light, for examples. Plus, there is not enough energy in the entire universe to accelerate even a single grain of sand to the speed of light.

It's just not possible.


Light itself dosent even go the speed, lol thats the biggest WTF moment ever!! ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Then whay even set it??? People are really stupid somtimes... :?


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18 Sep 2008, 3:11 pm

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There mere fact that "everybody says" thus-and-such does not make it true.


whoa, hold on here.. talk about hypocritical.



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The mere fact that "the Mayans believed" the same thing means even less, as they were primitive stone-aged people whose only claim to fame is that they could count up to 365 before anyone else.


That's pretty impressive though.. they had intelligence which must be accounted for.

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Besides, theories are supported by facts, not legends, so where are those orbital and trajectory elements for Nibiru that I asked for?

Nowhere, it seems ...


Lololol.. is this supposed to scare me away from sharing my views?..



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18 Sep 2008, 3:13 pm

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There mere fact that "everybody says" thus-and-such does not make it true.


whoa, hold on here.. talk about hypocritical.



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The mere fact that "the Mayans believed" the same thing means even less, as they were primitive stone-aged people whose only claim to fame is that they could count up to 365 before anyone else.


That's pretty impressive though.. they had intelligence which must be accounted for.

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Besides, theories are supported by facts, not legends, so where are those orbital and trajectory elements for Nibiru that I asked for?

Nowhere, it seems ...


Lololol.. is this supposed to scare me away from sharing my views?..


I dont know is it working?
:P


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18 Sep 2008, 3:17 pm

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There mere fact that "everybody says" thus-and-such does not make it true.

whoa, hold on here.. talk about hypocritical.

How so?

ShawnWilliam wrote:
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The mere fact that "the Mayans believed" the same thing means even less, as they were primitive stone-aged people whose only claim to fame is that they could count up to 365 before anyone else.

That's pretty impressive though.. they had intelligence which must be accounted for.

So, where is this super-intelligent race of ancient astronomers, and where is their globally-dominant country?

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Besides, theories are supported by facts, not legends, so where are those orbital and trajectory elements for Nibiru that I asked for?

Nowhere, it seems ...

Lololol.. is this supposed to scare me away from sharing my views?..

No ... I'll just be making sure that your 'views' are clearly identified as mere repetitions of common legend, myth, and rumour.

So ... just where are those orbital and trajectory elements for Nibiru that I asked for?


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18 Sep 2008, 4:42 pm

The article mentions something interesting that I suppose it could make creationists to celebrate or something like that, the possibility of the current theory about the formation of planets in a star system to be incorrect?

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But if the body does turn out to orbit the young sunlike star, which has the unwieldy name 1RXS J160929.1-210524, it could pose a problem for planet formation theories. A widely accepted model suggests that the planet-forming disks of gas, dust and ice that surround newborn stars concentrate most of their material close to their stars.

“The bulk of the material from which planets might form is significantly closer to the parent star,” Burrows says.

The outermost parts of such disks wouldn’t contain enough material to assemble a Jupiter-mass planet at the distance from the star — 330 astronomical units (AU), or 330 times the separation between Earth and the sun


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18 Sep 2008, 5:39 pm

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The article mentions something interesting that I suppose it could make creationists to celebrate or something like that, the possibility of the current theory about the formation of planets in a star system to be incorrect?


Nebular hypothesis has already been criticized to death, I don't know what other hypothetical plausibility they'd be calling a theory now... but I've seen no article on CMI about the latest exosolar planet.



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18 Sep 2008, 6:02 pm

Relicanth7 wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
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There mere fact that "everybody says" thus-and-such does not make it true.


whoa, hold on here.. talk about hypocritical.



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The mere fact that "the Mayans believed" the same thing means even less, as they were primitive stone-aged people whose only claim to fame is that they could count up to 365 before anyone else.


That's pretty impressive though.. they had intelligence which must be accounted for.

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Besides, theories are supported by facts, not legends, so where are those orbital and trajectory elements for Nibiru that I asked for?

Nowhere, it seems ...


Lololol.. is this supposed to scare me away from sharing my views?..


I dont know is it working?
:P


not really.. :twisted:



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18 Sep 2008, 6:10 pm

Fnord wrote:
How so?


because your information is all derrived from a popular source. . you aren't yourself a scientist.


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So, where is this super-intelligent race of ancient astronomers, and where is their globally-dominant country?


LOL.. dead, just like America will be. Where is babylon?

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Besides, theories are supported by facts, not legends, so where are those orbital and trajectory elements for Nibiru that I asked for?


LOL.. who are you the f*****g police?

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Nowhere, it seems ...


I'm not a proffessional researcher, I don't save all of my discoveries in a neat and organised folder.

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No ... I'll just be making sure that your 'views' are clearly identified as mere repetitions of common legend, myth, and rumour.


Is that what it's really about?.. I thought you were just trying to suppress free speech, and free thinking.. even if you dont work for the government, you fulfill their overall agenda pretty well. What DO you do for a living?



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18 Sep 2008, 9:45 pm

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

So 2012 is doomsday?
Well then I'll head myself in a downward spiral of excesses in alcohol, girls and internets :lol:


Thats just superstction You cant actuly belive that can u? :?


Nah, of course not, but it's a good excuse to start a drinking spree =P


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18 Sep 2008, 10:51 pm

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Relicanth7 wrote:
computerlove wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

So 2012 is doomsday?
Well then I'll head myself in a downward spiral of excesses in alcohol, girls and internets :lol:


Thats just superstction You cant actuly belive that can u? :?


Nah, of course not, but it's a good excuse to start a drinking spree =P

I'm waaay beyond "excuses" man. :hic:


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18 Sep 2008, 11:04 pm

you seem two shots ahead =P


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