Worlds end september 10, goobye!

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I know from watching a documentry about Hawking and on physics that there is theory that there could be milions of tiny black holes around us and we do not even notice.

Interesting hypothesis, how would you test this?

For some reason, nature seems to be simultaneously experimenting with the large brain in several pretty much unrelated groups.

Among invertebrates, there's the octopus. There's the whales and dolphins. Among four legged herbivores there's the various versions of the elephant, all but two species now extinct.

Then there's the primates, notably us.

Octopi are the only other ones with the physical ability to manipulate matter, although they don't seem to do anything too complex. Elephants can do impressive stuff with their trunks, but having only one trunk per animal probably presents a limitation.

Elephants and cetaceans are highly social, but they seem to limit the collectivization of their intelligence to their own social group.

We've gone totally nuts on this recently, combining huge numbers of people into a collectively operating intelligence. Modern science is an obvious example.

Not really a conclusion, just something I wonder about.

How many "versions" of elephants have ever existed?

Also elephants never forget, also a huge range of animals have things liike humour and stuff. Supposidly the crow is noted in this as they have been seen to do things that are unnesesary such as stealing things from humans like windshield wipers just to anoy people. Or there is the Parot that can mimic sounds and some other house hold pets can be quite inteligent.

2 hours and we will find out

Last chance to build a space craft and leave earth.

Geodon has made me tired. I think I'll see you tomorrow. Sorry to leave you guys.

Can we close this thread now. You are all wasting your time on here.

I'm not sure. I'd take a guess and say maybe a couple of dozen. Their history is pretty complicated, but it's well documented because they have large bones, so they leave a lot of fossils and their fossils are more likely to get found than say, a fossil mouse.

I think there were about five species of mammoths, which were basically modern elephants, about as closely related to the Asian and African elephants as these two are to each other.

Then there were the more distantly related mastodons, and some strange looking things called gompotheres, which were clearly recognizable as elephant type animals.

I haven't gotten all of them sorted out. Interesting stuff, though.

I second that ... this party has gone way past my bed-time ...

These black holes are tiny, and in reality aren't really "black holes" in the sense of the monsters lying out in space. They are tiny, were talking smaller than we can even see with electron microscopes. Created in a laboratory they blip in to existence, they blink back out. That is even if they are created. First of all the LHC has to be calibrated and their going to use it to be able to add on an extra decimal point to known measurements to make them more accurate. However, even if these “mini black holes” which really aren’t mini more “nano back holes” are created, they wont last long, the end of the world is not coming from them.



Plus a black hole only has the force of gravity of an object of the same mass. If a black hole had the same mass as our sun, of course that mass would be in a much smaller volume, but it would only have the same force of gravity has out sun. There for anything that’s far enough away, would just orbit the black hole like it would a star.



These “nano black holes” would have the same gravitational force to pull things in as the particle that created it, which would be around 9.1093x10^-31KG which is mind bogglingly small. So it wouldn’t have enough gravitational force to eat the universe, no where near it. The end of the world will not end, even if it does, on the off chance, on the very off change that it does due to some super morphing nano black hole we wouldn’t be around to moan about it.

20 minutes before we don't die as of this post

DId the world end?

Still here! Perhaps they blew a fuse, lol.

We don't need a collider or wtahever to end the civilization as we know it; ignorance can do that, and it's a whole lot cheaper.