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28 Dec 2017, 3:39 am

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I've read a great deal about the extensive damage from the floods in the Philippines

And there will be another one after another. :|


Hmmm...
:o Had you been there? I mean, not in the Philippines.
I mean, had you ever dealt with or directly witnessed storms and mass scale flooding that involves massive property damage, stranded or missing people, and deaths?


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28 Dec 2017, 8:30 am

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28 Dec 2017, 9:35 am

I thought I was getting better, but I almost had another panic attack last night while I was trying to get to sleep. That's when my mind wonders about everything and I started to think again about what happened with those petitions and how it all even got started in the first place which took me back to the original first meeting and everything that happened. I'm not getting over what happened because when I allow myself to really think about it, it scares the hell out of me - especially how they were able to get away with it having no proof and how everyone just seemed to accept it and we had no way to defend ourselves. I can't get over how they all lied and how quick it got out of control and I never saw it coming. Maybe I need to see a shrink or something because I really don't know how to deal with this - it was one of the most traumatic things I have had to deal with. I thought maybe I was starting to move on, but the feelings are still there. I'm just trying to forget and it isn't working. I need someone to make some sense out of it.


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28 Dec 2017, 12:13 pm

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28 Dec 2017, 2:37 pm

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I thought I was getting better, but I almost had another panic attack last night while I was trying to get to sleep. That's when my mind wonders about everything and I started to think again about what happened with those petitions and how it all even got started in the first place which took me back to the original first meeting and everything that happened. I'm not getting over what happened because when I allow myself to really think about it, it scares the hell out of me - especially how they were able to get away with it having no proof and how everyone just seemed to accept it and we had no way to defend ourselves. I can't get over how they all lied and how quick it got out of control and I never saw it coming. Maybe I need to see a shrink or something because I really don't know how to deal with this - it was one of the most traumatic things I have had to deal with. I thought maybe I was starting to move on, but the feelings are still there. I'm just trying to forget and it isn't working. I need someone to make some sense out of it.

I hope you will get help; that sort of thing never goes away; it just gets shoved aside for a while.

I think that letting down one's guard (i.e. falling asleep, yoga) might actually cause a panic attack. You know what cured that for me? I got a dog. I did not think the small poodle was protecting me, but I did see that he went into barking hysteria if anybody so much as approached my door. So I hear a noise, look at peacefully sleeping dog, am reassured, have a good night's sleep.

In my own experience, the cure for trauma is EMDR (registered specialist @emdr.com, put your zipcode).

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28 Dec 2017, 2:44 pm

Hello, I’m new here and many things are my mind like how is the forum like and what should I do now



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28 Dec 2017, 2:48 pm

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Hello, I’m new here and many things are my mind like how is the forum like and what should I do now

Hello, Jonhuizar, and welcome! I'm glad you've found us. This is a friendly group with many interests (see Forums) and we're always glad to meet somebody new. :D



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28 Dec 2017, 10:40 pm

nurseangela wrote:
I thought I was getting better, but I almost had another panic attack last night while I was trying to get to sleep. That's when my mind wonders about everything and I started to think again about what happened with those petitions and how it all even got started in the first place which took me back to the original first meeting and everything that happened. I'm not getting over what happened because when I allow myself to really think about it, it scares the hell out of me - especially how they were able to get away with it having no proof and how everyone just seemed to accept it and we had no way to defend ourselves. I can't get over how they all lied and how quick it got out of control and I never saw it coming. Maybe I need to see a shrink or something because I really don't know how to deal with this - it was one of the most traumatic things I have had to deal with. I thought maybe I was starting to move on, but the feelings are still there. I'm just trying to forget and it isn't working. I need someone to make some sense out of it.

so sorry the situation remains troubling. counseling might help. give a counselor a few sessions to see if you're going to be comfortable with them. if you try six counselors and still aren't happy with any, consider it's the process rather than the counselors you find disagreeable and you might have to tough it out. i have dumped a couple of psychiatrists. the one i have now is well-informed but has little bedside manner. i'm okay with that as his knowledge of my long-term stability helped me get my nursing license.



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28 Dec 2017, 11:02 pm

Claradoon wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I thought I was getting better, but I almost had another panic attack last night while I was trying to get to sleep. That's when my mind wonders about everything and I started to think again about what happened with those petitions and how it all even got started in the first place which took me back to the original first meeting and everything that happened. I'm not getting over what happened because when I allow myself to really think about it, it scares the hell out of me - especially how they were able to get away with it having no proof and how everyone just seemed to accept it and we had no way to defend ourselves. I can't get over how they all lied and how quick it got out of control and I never saw it coming. Maybe I need to see a shrink or something because I really don't know how to deal with this - it was one of the most traumatic things I have had to deal with. I thought maybe I was starting to move on, but the feelings are still there. I'm just trying to forget and it isn't working. I need someone to make some sense out of it.

I hope you will get help; that sort of thing never goes away; it just gets shoved aside for a while.

I think that letting down one's guard (i.e. falling asleep, yoga) might actually cause a panic attack. You know what cured that for me? I got a dog. I did not think the small poodle was protecting me, but I did see that he went into barking hysteria if anybody so much as approached my door. So I hear a noise, look at peacefully sleeping dog, am reassured, have a good night's sleep.

In my own experience, the cure for trauma is EMDR (registered specialist @emdr.com, put your zipcode).

All the best.


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@nurseangela: What Claradoon said. I'm coming into this very late, with little background, but it sounds as though you had a horrendous bullying experience? I'm terribly sorry. That often creates PTSD [or PDSD (prolonged duress stress disorder) if it goes on for any length of time.]

EMDR definitely helps. Animals definitely help, a sleeping pet means the house is safe, it's hardwired in us to relax when we see that.

So yeah, everything Claradoon has said. Plus my own good wishes to you. It sucks that you went through that.


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29 Dec 2017, 1:20 am

PTSD is defined as a prolonged reaction to a threat of death or grave physical harm or actual harm or witnessing such death or harm. i agree that some emotional traumas can be as severe, but it may be difficult to find a therapist to treat emotional trauma with EMDR.



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29 Dec 2017, 1:28 am

Actually, PTSD is well documented to exist as a reaction to bullying, which is an existential threat, since it can threaten housing, employment, social acceptance, etc. and loss of any or all of these can be life threatening. People commit suicide in response to bullying, all too often. Adults, as well as children.

The first link below is to a review and metaanalysis on this topic.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 8915000026

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3287974/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/so ... adult-ptsd


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29 Dec 2017, 2:17 am

Esmerelda Weatherwax wrote:
Actually, PTSD is well documented to exist as a reaction to bullying, which is an existential threat, since it can threaten housing, employment, social acceptance, etc. and loss of any or all of these can be life threatening. People commit suicide in response to bullying, all too often. Adults, as well as children.

The first link below is to a review and metaanalysis on this topic.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 8915000026

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3287974/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/so ... adult-ptsd

the most reliable source you link (NIH) goes with the physical nature of the trauma.



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29 Dec 2017, 4:56 am

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29 Dec 2017, 11:51 am

cathylynn wrote:
Esmerelda Weatherwax wrote:
Actually, PTSD is well documented to exist as a reaction to bullying, which is an existential threat, since it can threaten housing, employment, social acceptance, etc. and loss of any or all of these can be life threatening. People commit suicide in response to bullying, all too often. Adults, as well as children.

The first link below is to a review and metaanalysis on this topic.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 8915000026

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3287974/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/so ... adult-ptsd

the most reliable source you link (NIH) goes with the physical nature of the trauma.


That particular article is exclusively focused on school bullying, which has a large physical component. The focus there is on children, and children resort to violence more readily than adults, because there are fewer social consequences for them when doing so.

In domestic violence, there is also a huge psychological component, often including prolonged "grooming" of the battered spouse before any physical violence occurs, and sadly there are still limited social/legal consequences for spousal battery, even today.

In the psychological trauma that occurs in workplace bullying and most adult social aggression, the physical dimension is drastically reduced - by adulthood, in workplaces, the *more sophisticated* bullies find other MOs. The existential threat to the target is not reduced at all by this shift - generally it's heightened because the consequences to the target are potentially so drastic.

If the intent of your posts is to deny the reality of psychological injury and the severity of damage resulting from same, which is what I am perceiving as their fundamental intent, then we are in profound, likely permanent disagreement. It happens; life goes on.


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29 Dec 2017, 12:05 pm

^ I've experienced physical, sexual, and emotional abuse. Personally, I find emotional to be the worst, and hardest to recover from. Physical wounds heal, sex can be avoided, but the emotional scars linger.

Also, on an unrelated issue... I'm realizing there are some things I'm bad at, and practice does not seem to lead to any progress. At some point I think it's best to accept that it's just not a realistic goal for me.



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