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26 Jul 2011, 6:26 pm

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I dreamed about having a nightmare yesterday during a nap (or so it appeared), then I've had several experiences where I have a "dream" and see myself asleep, dreaming.


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Wow, that sounds interesting. My dreams are blurred and boring.


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26 Jul 2011, 6:27 pm

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I never have good dreams - not fair!
I had pretty regular and really bad nightmares when I was around your age - real "wakes up screaming" stuff, but never "screamers" nowadays. If they're bad, they're bad because they're just so weird and confusing.
Always very intense though - absolutely everything about them is amplified.


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26 Jul 2011, 6:27 pm

The five colors cause ones eye to go blind
Racing horses and hunting cause one's mind to go mad
Goods that are hard to obtain pose an obsticle to one's travels
The five flavours confuse one's palate
The five tones cause one's ears to go deaf

Therefore, in the government of the sage:
He's for the belly and not for the eyes.
Thus he rejects that and takes this


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26 Jul 2011, 6:34 pm

Water is patient; it can stagnate and let itself be coated with scum if need be. It is as gentle as the morning's dew. It is non-confrontational, even respectful, in circumventing the rocks in a stream. It makes room for everything that enters its pools. It accommodates by assuming the shape of any vessel it is poured into. And it is humble, seeking always the lowest level. Yet along with - or rather because of - these adaptive, yielding properties, it is ultimately irresistible; it carves canyons out of stone.

Treat well those who are good,
Also treat well those who are not good;
thus is goodness attained.

Be sincere to those who are insincere;
thus is sincerity attained.

The sage
is self-effacing in his dealings with all under heaven,
and bemuddles his mind for the sake of all under heaven.

Act through nonaction,
Handle affairs through noninterference,
Taste what has no taste,
Regard the small as great, the few as many,
Repay resentment with integrity.

Undertake difficult tasks
by approaching what is easy in them;
Do great deeds
by focusing on their minute aspects.

All difficulties under heaven arise from what is easy,
All great things under heaven arise from what is minute.

For this reason,
The sage never strives to do what is great.
Therefore,
He can achieve greatness.

One who lightly assents
will seldom be believed;
One who things everything is easy
will encounter much difficulty.

For this reason,
Even the sage considers things difficult.
Therefore,
In the end he is without difficulty.

All under heaven say that I am great,
great but unconventional.
Now,
Precisely because I am unconventional,
I can be great;
If I were conventional,
I would long since have become a trifle.

To realize that you do not understand is a virtue;
Not to realize that you do not understand is a defect.

The reason why
The sage has no defects,
Is because he treats defects as defects.

Thus,
He has no defects.

Thirty spokes converge on a single hub,
but it is in the space where there is nothing
that the usefulness of the cart lies.
Clay is molded to make a pot,
but it is in the space where there is nothing
that the usefulness of the clay pot lies.
Cut out doors and windows to make a room,
but it is in the spaces where there is nothing
that the usefulness of the room lies.
Therefore,
Benefit may be derived from something,
but it is nothing that we find usefulness.


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26 Jul 2011, 6:37 pm

The wise person acts without effort
and teaches by quiet example.
He accepts things as they come,
creates without possessing,
nourishes without demanding,
accomplishes without taking credit


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26 Jul 2011, 6:38 pm

Give up religiosity and knowledge, and
people will benefit a hundredfold.
Discard morality and righteousness, and
people will return to natural love.
Abandon shrewdness and profiteering, and
there won't be any robber or thieves


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26 Jul 2011, 6:38 pm

jmnixon95 wrote:
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chrissyrun wrote:
I was so tired last night that I had a dream about sleeping while I was sleeping.
Have you dreamed about having a dream?
That would probably finish off my day quite effectively. 8O
Yes, I have, actually, though I have not looked into dream studies to know if it was an illusion or what. I dreamed about having a nightmare yesterday during a nap (or so it appeared), then I've had several experiences where I have a "dream" and see myself asleep, dreaming.
I've seen myself asleep in dreams a few times but it's always those "out of body" views which seem common in dreams. Well they do in mine, anyway: I'm quite often the external observer of my actions during a dream, but still receive sensory information as if I'm internalised.
That's quite interesting, the idea of dreaming while dreaming. If dreaming is supposed to be the subconscious "coming out to play", what's coming out to play during a dream of a dream? How many levels could there be?


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26 Jul 2011, 6:39 pm

These are external matter, however.
What is most important is what happens within:
look to what is pure;
hold to what is simple;
let go of self-interest;
temper your desires.


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26 Jul 2011, 6:39 pm

Knowing others is intelligence;
knowing the self is enlightenment.
Conquering others is power;
conquering the self is strength.


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26 Jul 2011, 6:40 pm

Great accomplishment seems imperfect,
Yet it does not outlive its usefulness.
Great fulness seems empty,
Yet it cannot be exhausted.

Great straightness seems twisted.
Great intelligence seems stupid.
Great eloquence seems awkward.

Movement overcomes cold.
Stillness overcomes heat.
Stillness and tranquility set things in order in the universe.


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26 Jul 2011, 6:41 pm

The world may be known
Without leaving the house;
The Way may be seen
Apart from the windows.
The further you go,
The less you will know


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26 Jul 2011, 6:41 pm

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How many levels could there be?


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26 Jul 2011, 6:42 pm

if you want to govern the people,
you must place yourself below them.
if you want to lead the people,
you must learn how to follow them

the Master is above the people,
and no one feels oppressed
she goes ahead of the people,
and no one feels manipulated.
the whole world is grateful to her
Because she competes with no one,
no one can compete with her


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26 Jul 2011, 6:43 pm

jmnixon95 wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
How many levels could there be?


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Yeah, Ok... Hardy-har. :P


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26 Jul 2011, 6:43 pm

Fill your cup to the brim and it will spill.
Keep sharpening your knife and it will blunt.
Chase after money and security and your heart will never unclench.
Care about people’s approval and you will be their prisoner


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26 Jul 2011, 6:44 pm

The :pig: didnt copy&paste right, sorry. :oops:


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