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20 Dec 2009, 11:14 pm

We don't have Walmart in Aust. but we do have Big W which is almost identical (they used the same instore posters and signs for a while, they copy each other's promotions etc.). The former CEO's of Walmart and Woolworths/Big W are chummy with each other.



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20 Dec 2009, 11:42 pm

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Do you really what the butchers of Tiananmen Square to have hegemony over the entire world?

…because that’s where we’re headed.


Apparently the majority who vote with their wallets wish to.
If people want to buy cheap the businesses will be quite happy to provide what brings in the peoples' money. And sweatshops and slave labor are about as cheap as it gets.


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21 Dec 2009, 12:00 am

Personally, I think it should be illegal for America-based manufacturers to produce anything anywhere but in America! Everything says Made In China! What kind of a crappy country is this when everything is actually manufactured in some Asian country and then sold here for cheap?



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21 Dec 2009, 12:45 am

southwestforests wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
Do you really what the butchers of Tiananmen Square to have hegemony over the entire world?

…because that’s where we’re headed.


Apparently the majority who vote with their wallets wish to.
If people want to buy cheap the businesses will be quite happy to provide what brings in the peoples' money. And sweatshops and slave labor are about as cheap as it gets.


Yeah, you're right about that, but it's this sort of impulse that made Hobbes write Leviathan.

Sometimes it falls to government to protect society from the shortsighted, self-destructive impulses of individuals.

Personal freedom is inversely proportional to governmental control, but the need for governmental control is inversely proportional to the peoples' capacity for moral restraint. :wink:


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21 Dec 2009, 1:38 am

America has cheap tastes. They own way more stuff than they use or need, and if they spent like the rest of the world, bought high quality and just what they would use, the economy would die.

Fashion and market created needs are a new thing, and an economic addiction for producers and consumers.

At least in China the baby formula problem was solved by a few people getting a bullet in the back of the head, but when the French were caught putting anti freeze in wine, no one had their head chopped off.

Even Asians think the price of 25 pound bags of rice at Wal Mart is good, just don't buy the other stuff. It is not the store, it is the shoppers, and I have been there and seen carts full of junk selling for several hundred. The shoppers were obviously in no need of food, they could last a year without eating.

Consumerism is an addiction, just like over eating, TV, it is a subsitute for having a life.

Since the economy and the government are a direct reflection of the people, the people are idiot gluttons. Where else could you put $600 down on a $500,000 house with no job?

Business is the problem in that they sell what the consumer will buy.

Government is the problem in they will pass or rescend laws as the people demand.

The people are the problem, and they vote with every dollar spent. They all want a big house, full of tacky trash, but expensive, two SUVs, and to weigh 300 pounds. They can eat two double cheezeburgers with bacon, two supersize fries, and wash it down with two malts.

My, walked fifteen miles through snow to school, story can be seen on TV reruns, it showed the wealth and glamor people aspired to. A sparsely furnished small home, one car, children who wore the same clothes for years, The Beaver got Wally's hand me downs.

They were upper middle class. Their house cost $10,000 with 20% down, and a 3% mortgage. They had money in the bank, credit cards had not been invented, and after Wally finished high school they might buy him a service station, make him an owner in a world of workers.

In my neighborhood people buy houses, SUVs, and clothes, that would buy a thousand acre ranch, a good small business, but they have a job, or most of them did. We of the 50's would buy income producing property. They buy a glamor lifestyle as shown on TV.

They bought the American Dream, as shown on TV, and dreams are the stuff nighmares are made of.

They do worry when it does not work like the mortgage broker said, the house doubling in value and making them rich without working in a year or two. So they eat more, take pills, which also add a few pounds, and can gain a hundred pounds waiting a year for someone in government to fix the markets.

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21 Dec 2009, 5:37 am

This Is awesome!

My mind is full of wallmart now


SOUTHWESTFOREST & GOONSQUAD, YOU ROCK


Um just thought this would be the place to add. I like the stuff from the 30s 40s and fifties.
Stuff not Food. Although were draining our food supply dry as if it were a colander draining its boiling water, (the remaining Kraftmack noodles represent the water in the empty oceans and the no longer fertile soil, the water represents the food, and the colander represents us)
.... In 2009 Food Variety and availability has to be almost as good as it will ever be...
(to bad humans as a mass, have pervasive insect or disease like affects on their surroundings) and jeepers there are just so many of us.

The stuff they used to Hand make, and small scale market was much better than what WALLMART wouldn't dare dream of marketing today.

If: WALLMARTS STUFF WAS HALF AS GOOD AS ALL STUFF A HALF CENTURY AGO, THEN IT'S CUSTOMERS WOULD ONLY NEED ONE OF EACH EVERY 20 YEARS. ouch!


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21 Dec 2009, 10:45 am

Mal-Wart topic

I have been guilty of shopping at the Wally-mart. But I do look for bargains elsewhere.

As Inventor said, consumerism is an addiction. I do try to buy only what I need, and fix what is broken so it will last a little longer before I have to really replace it.

I am reluctant to replace my aging computer, even as it is starting to malfunction, and no one can fix it because the problem is working memory. I have deleted all files I do not need and programmes I do not use, but nowadays everything takes up a ton of room. Sites and software are also victims of consumerism. :?


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22 Dec 2009, 8:26 am

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Mal-Wart topic

I have been guilty of shopping at the Wally-mart. But I do look for bargains elsewhere.

As Inventor said, consumerism is an addiction. I do try to buy only what I need, and fix what is broken so it will last a little longer before I have to really replace it.

I am reluctant to replace my aging computer, even as it is starting to malfunction, and no one can fix it because the problem is working memory. I have deleted all files I do not need and programmes I do not use, but nowadays everything takes up a ton of room. Sites and software are also victims of consumerism. :?


Oh yeah!! ! "KOOLAID"

Mal-Wart. that's the way I will now say it. Thank you so very much.

Im same. This old computers Hard drive keeps coding 21 on me. Sheep sh#t. Grew some cool stuff but its still poo. (Gonna buy a mac Laptop baby, nufs e nuf)

When I stop coming to WP, Rest assured I am happy, alive and well, Its this Frankinstine Machine I built in 02 that finnaly gave to the overloaded punnishment I dish it.

If It were an Olivetti Typewriter it would work better when I press it harder, too bad.


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22 Dec 2009, 1:44 pm

My efforts to cause the fall of consumerism are working it seems.

Through the wonders of ebay I found all the period new old stock parts for my bike, made it like new, and it is 46.

My clothing fell apart, so I bought Carhartt, I should have always worn sail canvas. My riding gear will last longer than I will.

When Katrina hit I was one of the last out, I was not ready to just leave and be gone for six weeks.

Now I have a tent, pack, sleeping bag, full survival kit, Chippewa boots, and clothing that will last for years outdoors.

Just bought a used Barbour Burghley waxed coat, it covers from my chin to my ankles in waterproof wonder, a one person portable tent. In sage green, the better to vanish with. At $450, they are made to last a lifetime, and at 10% of that, I bought fifty years.

Before Katrina I never thought that I might just have to go survive, now I want the full outfit to survive for years. Within the confines of motorcycle packing, then back packing, I want a world of my own.

Everything I need is a small pile. My computer addiction is larger.

When you have to plan to backpack your world, it does change your thinking. Food, clothing, shelter. Next time might be six months in the forests, so medical, repairs, and the ability to kill. Fish hooks, snares, crossbow. It is still small enough to pack.

I have done some wilderness gold panning, with a couple of bike runs for food, water, fuel, I could spend six or eight months on the mountain, then go to the desert for the winter. Just thinking about living with just what I need has lead to thinking about living just for the fun of it. A gold claim now, I have a place to go if I need it.

What shocked me into change was, when I really did need it, I did not have what I needed to live for a week. I have a lot, none of it was what I needed at a basic level, take what you need to survive and go.
Now with the bike, in a day, I can be 500 miles away with everything I need for an extended time.

It went from fear, that hopeless feeling, to becoming a Survivalist! Now I dream of being a Mountain Man! Or at least spending a weekend fishing in a National Park. Knowing I could is great.



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22 Dec 2009, 2:26 pm

there's only 1 or 2 in my city of over a million
(its the 4th largest in the country)



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23 Dec 2009, 5:45 am

Kilroy wrote:
there's only 1 or 2 in my city of over a million
(its the 4th largest in the country)


I wonder which city has over a million people crammed into 2 MAL-WART's tomorrow night for those last Minuit gifts.

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10 Jan 2010, 9:41 am

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Wal-Mart is not in UK, although they own a store in UK called "ASDA".




There's one in Bristol.

I went to that. That was actually called "ASDA Wal-Mart", which was still like a regular ASDA store, but bigger, it wasn't fully a "Wal-Mart" store. ;)


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10 Jan 2010, 9:07 pm

There is a Wal*Mart Supercenter to the north of my home, there is one to the south, the east and the west. All probably within approximately a 3 mile radius. And one just a little bit farther to the southeast.

I shop there only when I have to. They have the best tasting McDonald's in my area inside the building. I get my music locally at Best Buy or Goodwill, but they have a budget section for the CDs and I can occasionally find something good for 5 bucks (I buy a lot of CDs). I can't think of anything else besides that that I buy at Best Buy. Every now and then my parents will force me to get clothes there if I am out and about with them.

Wal*Mart are c***s. I saw this YouTube vid where a couple kids decide to film a documentary about Wal*Mart, and they get kicked out the moment they walk in the door, causing them to set a record for the world's shortest documentary. "You can't film in here!! It's for the customers' privacy." They don't give a damn about their customers.

I fact, a few years ago I went in there to get some gym clothes. I couldn't find the section, it must've been a small section and I could've overlooked it. I walked up to the lady who specifically works in the clothing department, and I nicely asked, "Excuse me, could you tell me where the gym clothes are?" And she flips out and shouts: "You're gonna have to find them yourself, I'm not gonna find them for you!!"

Recently a lady in the electronics section refused to help me with another issue, and she was very rude about it. Complete with the sigh-and-eyeroll. I work in a Kroger owned grocery store, and if I acted like this I would be fired on the spot as soon as a manager finds out. This is something you don't do. I did complain to the manager, and she gets short with me.
So I leave the store, and as I am crossing the parking lot on foot (I had no car or bike), every shopping cart I came across I turned upside down, just to be a nuisance. It was hilarious, not just to me either but to whoever I tell the story to.


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11 Jan 2010, 12:26 am

I have half of a VW bug, the last of the fully mechanical machines. I can distill fuel for this one.

I think that education should come with ownership, show me something better.



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11 Jan 2010, 12:55 am

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I shop at WalMart regularly. I am poor, and cannot afford stuff at the local stores.

Once we got our brand-new WalMart Super Center, one of the local supermarket chains dropped its prices to compete. Now I can afford to do more of my shopping there.

I'm tired of hearing WalMart this, WalMart that. For those of us on very limited incomes, WalMart is a godsend.


We are a family of 4 living on 1,500 a month or less but are far too creative to fall into the trap of buying shoddy goods from Mall Wart . My mom has bought me clothes from there they last an average of 5 mo where I have thriftstore clothes that have lasted years. There are many discount food stores and most things at the local grocery cost no more than Mall Wart. They trick you into buying low quality things you dont really need at low prices so you will buy your necessities there also. If someone says how wonderfull they are and inexpensive they are enough times the easily tricked masses will believe it.



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11 Jan 2010, 6:24 am

I like wal-mart. I work there :lol: