Disabled people to march in London...

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None of those present evidence that Nas employees are all in it for themselves and have no interest in helping autistic people. What about these small state classical liberal's who want to defund charities so they don't have to pay as much tax in the future. Are they acting altruistically? It doesn't seem like it to me

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/act ... eform.html


The cuts being made to benefits and the proposed assessments that will be carried out are a huge cause of concern to us - we believe they are immoral and cruel. Reasonable adjustments are not being made and people with autism face much discrimination as a result.

Only 15 per cent of adults with autism are in full time paid employment (Reid, B. 2006 ‘Moving on up? Negotiating the transition to adulthood for young people with autism NAS) compared to 48 per cent of the whole population of people with disabilities (Labour Force survey, office for national statistics 2008)

Adults with autism often want to work and with the correct level of support it has been proven that they can. This suggests that the low employment figures cannot be attributed to a lack of desire to work. These statistics also clearly demonstrate that it is considerably more difficult for an adult with autism than an adult with another disability to secure full time employment.

There are a number of key challenges that prevent people with autism from accessing work. These range from a lack of appropriate skills due to problems in accessing education and training (including social skills and work skills training) to the failure of employers to understand and make reasonable adjustments (both during the recruitment process and in the workplace) and a lack of appropriate support for people with autism to find and sustain employment.

The new assessments for ESA (and PIP when it is implemented) do not make reasonable adjustments to take into consideration the social and communication impairments that people with autism face. ATOS assessors do not have adequate training in autism and the centres do not take into account the sensory needs of people with autism.
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We the undersigned want the Labour Party to strongly oppose the Government’s Welfare Reform Bill in the same way they are vigorously opposing the reforms to the NHS .

Welfare reform is breaking the covenant of care between people with disabilities and the welfare state.

The new Work Capability Assessment is denying Employment Support Allowance to people with disabilities with an intermittent and unpredictable incapacity who have a limited capability to work or to undertake work related activities.

Many people (who it is unreasonable to expect to work) are being declared 'fit to work' and invited to claim Job Seekers Allowance or placed in the Work Related Activities Group (WRAG) where they are required to undertake work related activity or have their income withdrawn.

The change over from DLA to PIP has created a huge amount of fear for people who have disabilities, many of whom use their allowance to fund services which do not exist in their Local Authorities, or to help them to meet the additional costs that can arise because of their disability. Vulnerable people are going are going to be subjected to a series of assessments to prove that that they are disabled enough to warrant the new personal payments, this includes those who were awarded the payment for life.

If the Labour Party does not strongly oppose this Bill the impact on the lives of people with disabilities will be catastrophic.

ACT NOW welcomes Liam Byrne's recognition of the need to protect the most vulnerable in society as per his speech yesterday. (10/05/11) However, we still intend to write to him and Ed Miliband asking the Labour Party to:-

•Restore the welfare covenant to ensure that vulnerable people with disabilities are protected and not living in fear.
•Do not time limit ESA.
•Ensure that any method of assessing work capability is fit for purpose.

We need a welfare system that provides income security to people who cannot work because of ill health and which gives them the time to get better. We also need a system that recognises there are many people who have complex permanent conditions which mean that they will never have the capability to sustain regular employment.

The new welfare system is immoral and cruel.

They're doing it because they're being paid to do it. If you're paying someone to do something, you do it. Follow the money.

And these aren't truly charitable organisations - if they were, they wouldn't be asking for tax money. People would fund them out of their own pocket. That's what charity is.

Services that the state should be providing are being outsourced, that's all that's going on.

And the lobbying question is simple: they're lobbying for changes the government wants to bring in. If they started saying things the government didn't like, they'd be threatened with having contracts removed.

My mum was on the board of the NAS which is how I came to my conclusions. Organisations like that don't want people to speak for themselves; they want us as compliant groups who do as we're told because they're doing alright out of us, thanks.

We're a captive market - they do "good things", so they have to be good, right? Not necessarily.

The National Autistic Society has done very little for me or my life. Most of the positive things in my life has come through my family, with a mixture of government benefits and a small amount of social worker help, though this usually has not been positive.

Small-state classical liberals would ensure that people who genuinely needed help (and couldn't work) got it, no questions asked. They would encourage people to better themselves and find their full potential, decreasing people's dependency on others.

Office work wouldn't be suitable for many people with Asperger's but a lot of us could work from home, for instance. We have a lot of skills.

I should have mentioned:

Someone's taking the wee-wee with that newspaper headline.

NAS has campaigned against welfare reform from the start- not for it. So i don't know how you figure that they are agreeing with the government.

There arent the job vacancies to employ millions of disabled people so it's either benefits or nothing. We have 500 thousand vacancies in the economy with 5 million on benefits.

You'll have to help me with what you're on about here.

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In what way?

Yes?

This is what you get when you have the Tory's in power, they screw the poor!!
Would you find the Tory's cutting befits to there banker chum, hell no!!

Am on IB from my mental health why should I financial have to suffer cos of idiots in the Square Mile having a very serious gambling addiction.

The banking sector in this country needs aversion therapy not free money to put on the next horse race!

'Disabled' in the popular definition means people with wheelchairs. People in wheelchairs generally can't walk. You need legs to march.

Look up the definition of disabled in the Disability Discrimination Act, is considers any with a physical &/or mental long term heath condition to be disabled. If your comment is intended to insult wheelchair uses, well done you insulted a member of my family.
My uncle is a wheelchair user due to his Transverse myelitis!

I never mentioned that it's the definition I would use. I'm saying it's the definition most might use. I'm aware of what the DDA says - those of us with ASDs are included in the 'disability' rubric in parts.

Are a farer observation of the public view of disability is that its only limited to physical conditions, the case in point there's members of my family who believe there no such thing as mental illness. As this one person, a parent of mine thinks that the hidden mental health conditions are imaginary. The irony is this person is married to an epileptic & as a diabetic daughter, both hidden conditions.

I don't think the word march excludes those who cannot walk. I've come into contact with lots of physically disabled people on twitter who say they are going to march, or going on the march. I think its just a broader term now, meaning protest march, as opposed to the act of marching. Anyway, most people who march, are actually walking or strolling, or even moseying, not militarily marching.

Plus I think most people today recognise the word disabled includes many with learning disabilities, mental health problems, autism etc.

This was the largest demonstration by disabled people "in living memory" apparently. There is an article on how it went here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/may/11/disabled-marchers-thousands-benefits-protest

I just read a different story on the Daily Mail that says a little bit about how some councils treat disabled people:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1385151/Council-staff-wall-shame-mock-pictures-disabled-children.html

I'm glad the rally went well.