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03 Feb 2016, 2:29 pm

One thing that I've noticed in my area in the last few days is that cars don't seem to retain their value as much as SUVs and pickups.

But then I started paying attention on the streets and the vast majority of the vehicles I see are either SUVs or pickups. Stand in the front of my office looking out on Main Street and you'll easily see 3 or 4 times as many SUVs and pickups drive by as you will cars. The number of new $50,000 to $80,000 pickups and SUVs is amazing.

Then when I looked at ages, it seems like ownership of cars is largely in two populations: the older folks (about 70 and older) and the Mexican families. SUV's and pickups seem to be more popular among everyone else.

I think that in most cases when couples have two vehicles, it is a pickup for the husband and an SUV for the wife.

Among people at my office, I'm the only one here who drives a car. One other person has a car (a Mazda Miata) but hasn't driven it in several years -- he drives his full-size crew cab pickup instead. The youngest employee also drives a full-sized crew cab pickup. Everyone else drives SUVs.



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03 Feb 2016, 4:08 pm

eric76 wrote:
One thing that I've noticed in my area in the last few days is that cars don't seem to retain their value as much as SUVs and pickups.

But then I started paying attention on the streets and the vast majority of the vehicles I see are either SUVs or pickups. Stand in the front of my office looking out on Main Street and you'll easily see 3 or 4 times as many SUVs and pickups drive by as you will cars. The number of new $50,000 to $80,000 pickups and SUVs is amazing.

Then when I looked at ages, it seems like ownership of cars is largely in two populations: the older folks (about 70 and older) and the Mexican families. SUV's and pickups seem to be more popular among everyone else.

I think that in most cases when couples have two vehicles, it is a pickup for the husband and an SUV for the wife.

Among people at my office, I'm the only one here who drives a car. One other person has a car (a Mazda Miata) but hasn't driven it in several years -- he drives his full-size crew cab pickup instead. The youngest employee also drives a full-sized crew cab pickup. Everyone else drives SUVs.


It's the versatility of pickups and SUV's. If practicality were not a factor, I'd rather have a Mustang GT or a Challenger R/T but it's limited as to what I can do with them.
I can put more stuff in my 4runner if I need to. I can put it in 4WD if necessary. It's probably more dependable than almost anything Ford or Chrysler makes. There's plenty of room in the back for my dog. He's too big to be comfortable for very long in bucket seats.


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05 Feb 2016, 1:44 am

I have two cars to look at, one Friday and one Saturday. Both are 2015 Ford Taurus Limiteds. I haven't decided which to go see first.

One is listed on having the remaining full warranty and the other doesn't mention it. Does anyone know whether or not Ford warranties extend to the new buyer? I'll probably call the local Ford dealer and ask him.

One of the cars is listed at just less than $1,000 more than the other. I figure I can use that to talk them down a bit.

One major difference is that one has a sun/moon roof and the other apparently doesn't. At least it doesn't show up in any pictures and they don't mention it on the dealer web site.

So my question to night is what are the advantages / disadvantages to a sun/moon roof? They sound cool but I don't know that I'll get much use out of one.



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05 Feb 2016, 8:20 am

I found the JD Power 2015 US Dependability Study rankings.

The cars I'm looking most at were all listed in the top three models per segment.

In Compact Premium Car, number one is the Lexus ES.

In Midsize Car, number three is the Toyota Camry

In Large Car, number two is the Toyota Avalon and number three is the Ford Taurus.

I also briefly considered a 2010 Cadillac STS, but decided to pass on it because of my perception of Cadillac reliability. For what it's worth, that particular car has been sitting on the dealer's lot for over two years now.



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05 Feb 2016, 1:11 pm

eric76 wrote:
So my question to night is what are the advantages / disadvantages to a sun/moon roof? They sound cool but I don't know that I'll get much use out of one.

I doubt I'd miss mine if I didn't have it.
I can't really thnk of any advantages or disadvantages.
It's strictly a matter of preference.


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05 Feb 2016, 7:48 pm

I bought a red 2015 Ford Taurus Limited loaded with pretty much everything. I'm not sure if it does navigation but it has everything else that I know of. And it has less than 21,500 miles.