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Icarus_Falling
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23 Aug 2007, 8:03 pm

Graelwyn wrote:

I confess there is someone here I would like to punch for being such a dishonourable traitorous cheating rat.

What did I do? I confess I'm brimming over with honour. Um, if "pirate's honour" counts, that is.

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23 Aug 2007, 8:05 pm

Icarus_Falling wrote:

Graelwyn wrote:

I confess there is someone here I would like to punch for being such a dishonourable traitorous cheating rat.

What did I do? I confess I'm brimming over with honour. Um, if "pirate's honour" counts, that is.

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Lol, I think honour in a man exists...until something else he wants comes along, and then it flies out of the window.

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23 Aug 2007, 8:09 pm

I confess that in grade 9 or 10 the school shrink never contradicted me when I said that I was socially ret*d.

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23 Aug 2007, 8:11 pm

Ana54 wrote:

I confess that in grade 9 or 10 the school shrink never contradicted me when I said that I was socially ret*d.

I confess, one of my friends at work referred to both of us (her and I) as socially retarted two days ago, and I did not contradict her.

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- Icarus the Socially Challenged <- PC term

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23 Aug 2007, 8:14 pm

I confess that I learned the other day that one of my cats (Jazz) likes Q-Tips. He gnaws on the cotton side (he doesn't actually eat it, just chews) and then plays with it for awhile. Thus, to avoid be completely covered with cat-hair shortly after my shower, I give him a(n) (obviously clean) Q-Tip.

This is Jazz, by the way (I feel like posting his picture; no reason why):

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23 Aug 2007, 8:16 pm

I confess that Jazz looks remarkably like a combination of my Charity and her mother Kitty! I should have taken my Charity back form my father, because when he took her and his cat Thomas on a trip in his van the van crashed and they both ran off into the woods, and nobody found them! I had a feeling that I should have taken back my Charity, to make SURE that I saw her again! I never even really said goodbye to her properly!

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23 Aug 2007, 8:16 pm

Icarus_Falling wrote:

Ana54 wrote:

I confess that in grade 9 or 10 the school shrink never contradicted me when I said that I was socially ret*d.

I confess, one of my friends at work referred to both of us (her and I) as socially retarted two days ago, and I did not contradict her.

Good fortune,

- Icarus the Socially Challenged <- PC term

Isn't the term correct though (for all of us, really)? If you use it by its actual definition that is, not the way it's usually used.

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23 Aug 2007, 8:18 pm

Graelwyn wrote:

Lol, I think honour in a man exists...until something else he wants comes along, and then it flies out of the window.

Or in some cases he holds on to it. Depends on the man, or woman. I confess, I've had quite a few opportunities to let my honour fly out the window over something I wanted, but I've always managed to hold onto it.

But, as I was made in the image of humans, and they are all fundementally flawed, I suppose I must have some weakness that would cause my honour to fly out the window. As I aspire to be something more than human, perhaps this, at least, is something I may continue to handle well from now until the finite amount of time I have left here expires; in which case, I win.

We'll see.

Good fortune,

- Icarus the Honourable

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23 Aug 2007, 8:23 pm

Icarus_Falling wrote:

Graelwyn wrote:

Lol, I think honour in a man exists...until something else he wants comes along, and then it flies out of the window.

Or in some cases he holds on to it. Depends on the man, or woman. I confess, I've had quite a few opportunities to let my honour fly out the window over something I wanted, but I've always managed to hold onto it.

But, as I was made in the image of humans, and they are all fundamentally flawed, I suppose I must have some weakness that would cause my honour to fly out the window. As I aspire to be something more than human, perhaps this, at least, is something I may continue to handle well from now until the finite amount of time I have left here expires; in which case, I win.

We'll see.

Good fortune,

- Icarus the Honourable

Well spoken good sir.

*gives you "Hero of the Soviet Union" medal*

Go on brother of revolution.

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23 Aug 2007, 8:28 pm

RainSong wrote:

Isn't the term correct though (for all of us, really)? If you use it by its actual definition that is, not the way it's usually used.

Yes, it is technically correct, and personally, I see no problem with it at all. But I'm archaic. I still say "queer" when I mean "strange". (Picked that up from Lewis Carroll, but he was from a much different time than us.) Political correctness has nothing to do with correctness, and everything to do with thought revision. <shudder... suppresses rant.>

There are a dozen or so smallish flying bugs than often sneak into my living room through a crack in the screen. They cause no trouble; don't bite, don't get into food, don't get in people's faces. They just fly around in circles, chasing each other in strange little dances. So, I mostly ignore them; occasionally, I'll sit and watch them do their strange dance and see if I can pick out any patterns to it (so far I haven't). I call them the dancing flies.

I confess that I just spent several minutes boxing with the dancing flies - and they kicked my ass!

Good fortune,

- Icarus the Flyswatter

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23 Aug 2007, 8:29 pm

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23 Aug 2007, 10:02 pm

Graelwyn wrote:

The fatal human flaw is that humans, ultimately, are not selfless. They are not capable of selflessness. They are ultimately selfish and their feelings, ultimately shallow and transient.

I both agree and disagree with this statement. Yeah, humans have a lot of bad qualities; selfishness, shallowness, and thousands of others - and it's well to remember that everyone here is a human. Of course, it's not such a hot excuse, but mistakes are made. It's part of life; no one is perfect.

However, I believe people are capable of being selfless; most good deeds are such. One cannot be selfless all the time, of course, but they can be for awhile, and that should count for a good deal. It's rather unappreciated, actually.

As for fatal flaw... I would have to disagree with that. If everyone was completely selfless, no one would have anything.

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23 Aug 2007, 10:04 pm

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23 Aug 2007, 10:13 pm

Graelwyn wrote:

But selfless acts can be totally ruined...in my eyes...by one selfish act.

Here we differ. I am content with what I have been given; should it be ruined in the future, I shall, of course, be disappointed. But I will remember what was and what was given. The past is preserved for me; I cannot (and would not) change it.

Graelwyn wrote:

Why be selfless on occasion then ruin it?

Because, as you pointed out, it's impossible to be completely selfless. Even those who seem so are not; there are flaws in everyone. Even those who give would like to be given, if only occasionally. People make mistakes; everyone makes mistakes. It's... taxing to try to go against human nature forever.

Graelwyn wrote:

hmm... I need to gather my thoughts on this as it is really confusing and bothering me, not to mention disillusioning.

I hope you can work it out well.

Graelwyn wrote:

I suppose, one could say, the ultimate in enlightenment is when you can forgive anyone anything and just put it down to human imperfection ?

I would not know. I think forgiving anything is a bit drastic; however, when an otherwise good individual errs, it's important to remember that we are human, we are imperfect, and forgiveness is kind, especially if it seems hard to give.

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23 Aug 2007, 10:13 pm

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23 Aug 2007, 10:15 pm

I confess that I believe it is human nature to be selfish as it is a part of the natural instincts of survival innate as part of the animals we are. While this does not mean that humans cannot do what can be seen as kind and selfless acts, ultimately inside there is at least some bit of selfishness in either satisfying an internal mental desire or guilt, or some other deeper and darker need.

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