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26 Apr 2025, 4:20 pm

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26 Apr 2025, 4:22 pm

But also, you get it!

You can love yourself even if there are certain characteristics that you don't love. But, you can't love and hate yourself at the same time. It doesn't make sense.


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26 Apr 2025, 7:06 pm

Well, I kind of approve of my flaws in a weird sort of way. They keep me interesting. Nothing more boring than somebody who's never naughty. I mean I wouldn't approve of a flaw if it hurt the innocent, but I don't think that happens very often. Of course innocence and hurting are a bit difficult to define sometimes, so I guess it'll always be a bit fuzzy when you're looking at lesser offenses and the grey area between those and being perfect.

Making sense is an odd thing. A lot of people are uncomfortable with stuff that doesn't make sense. I'm strangely ambivalent to it. Often I can't rest till I've got a sensible answer to a question, but I think when I started looking at Zen I started to let it go a bit. Zen is full of sense and nonsense, in a good way.



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26 Apr 2025, 10:03 pm

^ I can work with that. Being okay with not understanding something is reasonable, maybe even healthy if applied appropriately. I'm not going to be accepting two opposites as true (i.e. give up on a fundamental of understanding) and function in any decent capacity at the same time.


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26 Apr 2025, 11:46 pm

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I recall hearing about whether or not light is waves or particles. To me it can't be both, but apparently it is, kind of. But it's not quite an opposite. It's counter-intuitive, and the answer probably can't be clearly explained to people like me who don't understand physics to that level.

As for loving and hating oneself (or anything else) at the same time, I guess it's only a paradox if you take loving and hating as absolute, black-and-white concepts. I doubt either are ever absolutely "pure." It's fine to have absolute concepts of things as theoretical definitions but if a thing can't be isolated in the real world, I guess if somebody says it doesn't exist, then that opinion can't be overturned. We can't say "yes it does exist, we've got one in this bottle."

I was amazed to find that there are some (mathematical) statements which simply can't be proved right or wrong, and they even proved that they can't. So anybody can claim they're right or that they're wrong, and nobody will ever be able to prove that person is wrong. They can say they can't prove themselves right, but that's all. I learned that at a lecture called "How Big Is Infinity" but I'm crap at following lectures so I can't remember what those statements were.

Anyway, that's probably a bit of a ramble.



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27 Apr 2025, 4:31 am

Oh man when I've done my weights and had a wash I'm gonna get a cup of tea and some tiger toast

That's what I call luxury


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27 Apr 2025, 10:02 am

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I recall hearing about whether or not light is waves or particles. To me it can't be both, but apparently it is, kind of. But it's not quite an opposite. It's counter-intuitive, and the answer probably can't be clearly explained to people like me who don't understand physics to that level.


Yeah! The quantum world is trippy. It doesn't make sense to us. Even Einstein had difficulty with it. I think our brains don't have the capacity to understand it intuitively. I think we have to use mathematical models to make assumptions and predictions, but we can't understand it in a way that naturally makes sense to us. Even the location of an electron is a weird sort of probability.

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As for loving and hating oneself (or anything else) at the same time, I guess it's only a paradox if you take loving and hating as absolute, black-and-white concepts. I doubt either are ever absolutely "pure." It's fine to have absolute concepts of things as theoretical definitions but if a thing can't be isolated in the real world, I guess if somebody says it doesn't exist, then that opinion can't be overturned. We can't say "yes it does exist, we've got one in this bottle."


That makes sense to me, but emotions are weird. I think I don't understand them like others people seem to do so naturally.

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I was amazed to find that there are some (mathematical) statements which simply can't be proved right or wrong, and they even proved that they can't. So anybody can claim they're right or that they're wrong, and nobody will ever be able to prove that person is wrong. They can say they can't prove themselves right, but that's all. I learned that at a lecture called "How Big Is Infinity" but I'm crap at following lectures so I can't remember what those statements were.


Sounds like finding mathematical concepts that can't be proven is a fun but mentally chaotic job. It seems like the point of it is to find where logic is illogical.

Also, infinity gets really weird! I remember learning something like there are more infinities between 1 & 2 than infinities in positive whole numbers.

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Anyway, that's probably a bit of a ramble.


Defining a ramble might be one of those concepts that can't be placed in a bottle. Someone can label a statement as a ramble, while another person would label it as an interesting and insightful contribution. I would be the the latter of those two. Thank you!


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27 Apr 2025, 12:14 pm

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Thank you for saying so 8) I was probably off-topic because I went and aroused your interest. But it's curious how good some of my off-topic rambling can be. A lot of it is probably drivel, but there's a bit of gold in it here and there if I bang on for long enough. Just that by that time most people have fallen asleep.



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29 Apr 2025, 2:01 am

msm leading the herd along the panic line
while at the backdoor/frontdoor you get switched into digital identity

when gov tells you you must have a personal smartphone
they are up to something for their banking masters
-- to the bank, to the bank--

:nemo: :nemo: :chef:



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29 Apr 2025, 10:32 am

traven wrote:
msm leading the herd along the panic line
while at the backdoor/frontdoor you get switched into digital identity

when gov tells you you must have a personal smartphone
they are up to something for their banking masters
-- to the bank, to the bank--

:nemo: :nemo: :chef:

If that's about the USA I'm going to be in trouble. Ain't got one. Is it a criminal offense yet, or do they just do it by leaving you to the wolves?



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30 Apr 2025, 1:42 am

^france - i guess it will spread
" no transaction (moneywise or governmentwise) can be done without a (very recent) smartphone", your new identity, only plenty sites are involved in your new identity, for your privacy, and safety, ofc
:twisted: :twisted: :roll: :|

the state outlawed real money, for paying to the gov
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not really funny though :|



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30 Apr 2025, 10:33 am

Whatever happened to the French revolutionary character? Doesn't seem like 5 minutes ago they were setting the country on fire to stop the gov increasing the pension age. It worked too. Asterix must have gone soft.



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30 Apr 2025, 11:03 am

Guy in this quiz show wants to take his gf to Switzerland with his winnings


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30 Apr 2025, 11:35 am

It would be silly to take her without the winnings. "Sorry duck, we haven't got the dosh for the skis. Oh, and can you make us an igloo? Hotel won't let us in for nowt."



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30 Apr 2025, 11:37 am

My daughter said: does she know :lol:


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30 Apr 2025, 11:51 am

:lol:
He could take the winnings but not the gf, and have twice as much money to spend. What could possibly go wrong?