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19 Nov 2015, 5:52 pm

...As far as differences between Canada and the U.S.A. , I've often thought that , when the American revolution came , people who honestly preferred the existing system ~ or were indifferent , but didn't like the turmoil , or the opportunity for other people to declare them " traitors " and seize their property/their life/their daughter may have retreated above the border , thus making for a ~ more " going along " ? more " reasonable "/" quiet " ~ Canadian national personality against the U.S. both perhaps for better and worse (There , that wishy-washy enough for 'ye :lol: :mrgreen: ?) ?????



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19 Nov 2015, 6:01 pm

...Was that said by ~ or ABOUT (ooh , I gotta make an " a-boot " ref. here :wink: ) ~ William Randolph Hearst ?
If said about (THE " Citizen Hearst " one ~ he was William Randolph Hearst Jr. , actually , IIRC .) " W. R. " , was it Mencken who said it ?
I was conceived in Canada by my Yank parents and I'm afraid I can't even travel there , legally speaking , now :( ! !! !!




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h.l. Mencken said this about us: "nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." our politics makes us an international spectacle, deeply embarrassing. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:



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19 Nov 2015, 6:06 pm

^^^Mencken said it. good point about the possible origins of the sensible Canadian character :wtg:



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20 Nov 2015, 4:57 pm

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...Would GBS have used the phrase " third world " ?
It was a Cold War-era phrase , the " Western/capitalist " nations being the First , the " Marxist/Communist " ones being the Second...He lived till slightly post-Dub Dub , if I recall right , but even then , would he have used that phrase ?




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George bernard Shaw said of America "it is a third world nation with first world technology", whilst Canadians have a quiet dignity. I'm from Wales we have roads now and next year electrickery, running water is on the way too! LOL :D


But you all still point at airplanes! :lol:



SOMEBODY important probably said that. But you're right. George Bernard Shaw could NOT have originated that quote.

He lived in the era of the First World War I believe. Late Victorian until the inter war period.

The term "third world" didnt come into vogue until I was in college in the late Seventies. That was very LATE in the Cold War era. In GBS time most of the Third World was governed by either Britain, or France, as colonies. And if folks had reason to speak about them they were called "the backward countries".

In the post war/cold war era the "backward countries" started to gain independence. And they were redubbed the "developing countries". Since some of them were also nonaligned nations the term "third world" came to be used in the Seventies for the countries that Russia and the USA were vying for influence over.

I doubt that GBS would have used the word "technology" either. They just didnt use that term in the Downton Abbey era even it were in the dictionary already. Just doesnt sound right.



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21 Nov 2015, 11:40 am

My uncle and his family currently live up in the Northwest Territories. Most Canadians are like, "How can you live up there, it's so cold!" and assume only Inuit people live so far up north. My uncle must not mind the cold, plus he enjoys some of the more rugged outdoor activities like kayaking and mountain climbing.

My mom told me that he's planning to take a trip to Hawaii around Christmas this year. Which, of course, is one of the States even though it's so far from the rest of the country. When he came home in the summer he complained about being too hot when the rest of us still found it cool, so I'm amused that he's traveling somewhere tropical.

He's been to Japan as well. In fact my aunt, his wife, is Japanese. :)



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21 Nov 2015, 1:53 pm

The food is very different and some of the laws are different I believe.



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21 Nov 2015, 6:26 pm

Very very generally we're all fairly similar in Canada and the USA.. but when you get into specifics, there are massive regional differences in people all across Canada and the USA. Our 2 countries cover a significant portion of the WORLD. Think about that. There are countless cultures and subcultures of people within a single major city.. so think about the variations across a massive continent.

In general, Canadians are a little less fat, funnier, more polite, and multicultural. Americans tend to be greedier, more racist, and pro-war than Canadians. But all of these are massive generalizations and say nothing about any particular region or individual.

So yeah, in general we're about the same.. but specifically we can be very, very, different from place to place & person to person.


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21 Nov 2015, 11:27 pm

Canadians, by and large, take political positions that to amuuricans seem decidedly left-wing [such as widespread support for universal health care].



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22 Nov 2015, 12:48 am

a canadian/texan family's genuine warmth has stuck with me for years.


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23 Nov 2015, 3:26 am

I'm dating a woman from Montreal, and between talking to her and other Canadians I've known, the most consistent political difference I see is that Americans are far less trusting of authority in general and the government specifically than our Northern neighbors are. I think you can trace a lot of the differences back to that one thing, the Canadian trait of trusting the state to take care of you when you're sick or come to your defense when you need it, or even having your best interests at heart generally, vs the more cynical American outlook that assumes incompetence at best and malice at worst.


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23 Nov 2015, 3:41 am

Dox47 wrote:
I'm dating a woman from Montreal, and between talking to her and other Canadians I've known, the most consistent political difference I see is that Americans are far less trusting of authority in general and the government specifically than our Northern neighbors are. I think you can trace a lot of the differences back to that one thing, the Canadian trait of trusting the state to take care of you when you're sick or come to your defense when you need it, or even having your best interests at heart generally, vs the more cynical American outlook that assumes incompetence at best and malice at worst.


Hmmm, I would have said nearly the opposite.. well, kinda. I mean, as a Canadian, I don't trust our corrupt gov't - especially our Provincial gov't of the last ~14 years. Meanwhile Americans seem to be much more patriotic.. gladly buying whatever their federal gov't sells them as they continue to pay their taxes to fuel the war machine.

With the number of high profile news stories about bad cops in the USA, I could definitely see how Americans would be less trusting of their law enforcement officers than Canadians might be of ours, though.


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23 Nov 2015, 5:42 pm

...AB , why have you been so refused in your courting of the Great White North ~ I.e. , why don't they want you ?
You had a respectable gov't job , and you're a veteran ~ There some " naughty "-ness in your past/on your record you've never spoken of to me/here ? Attaboy ! :lol: :wink: :mrgreen:
Bluntly , too , I think you may not have enough money and be a little too old now ~ I think Canada fairly bluntly stands more at the golden door , not so much looking for " wretched refuse " ~ Bluntly , the True North expects , in general , a higher incomechedda value upon immigrants' part !


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Canadians, by and large, take political positions that to amuuricans seem decidedly left-wing [such as widespread support for universal health care].



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23 Nov 2015, 6:00 pm

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...AB , why have you been so refused in your courting of the Great White North ~ I.e. , why don't they want you ?

aside from not having even mere misdemeanors on one's record, for residence they also demand some combo of the following:
*high net worth of at least half a mil;
*blood relations in country;
*no diseases or dysfunctions;
*professional degree or some advanced skillset that is needed by Canada.
many americans are turned away each year, from not only Canada but any other commonwealth nation.



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23 Nov 2015, 6:25 pm

...Aaah , heh , heh , heh :P :twisted: . A lil' more jailbird status , bro , than you've let on to me , the (along with Peter) " local bad boy " here ?
Also , frankly , now that our " disease " is well-known ~ would official Aspie/HFA/" autistic " status be o-ne o-f those things that keep you outta Hockey-Land ?9Just as I beli0eve Aspergers'/etc. is ~ NOW ~ an official " can't enlist " in the U.S, miltary , I believe .)


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...AB , why have you been so refused in your courting of the Great White North ~ I.e. , why don't they want you ?

aside from not having even mere misdemeanors on one's record, for residence they also demand some combo of the following:
*high net worth of at least half a mil; (Bucks or loo-n$ :D ?)
*blood relations in country;
*no diseases or dysfunctions;
*professional degree or some advanced skillset that is needed by Canada.
many americans are turned away each year, from not only Canada but any other commonwealth nation.



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23 Nov 2015, 6:35 pm

am pretty sure dx'ed ASD qualifies as one of those no-no's for emigration to the great white north or other commonwealth nation.



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23 Nov 2015, 6:47 pm

...'Cuz the UK , anyway , is so inbred that its rampant there , anyway and AU/CA/NZ don't need STILL MORE ! , when they can't turn off the Limey strain of " us " :D ???! ! :twisted: :mrgreen: ! !! !! !! !!
I HAVE rather thought this about UK tendency toward AS , heh heh :P , just never expressed it here 8) ~ I mean , I'm rather an overly Brit-descended " Wasp " in the US sense , I've always though I ! had " pretty weak genes " overall even before the concept of my Aspie-ness came to me .
Acgtually , how widely are you " written about ~ w/your name at7tached " as having AS ? When were you DX'd ?


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am pretty sure dx'ed ASD qualifies as one of those no-no's for emigration to the great white north or other commonwealth nation.



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