What is the most attractive alien species ever?
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I just had to add, that those are also the only things that make them alien, other than the skin colour. That kind of defeats the purpose of attractive aliens.
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This is not correct. You seem to be forgetting the opening line of Star Wars:
They are humanoid, but not human.
I would have to completely disagree.
For me, the physical component of attractiveness is minimal, and the behavioural/mental component is of utmost importance. That is why I listed for each the personality traits which I found attractive.
I liked Deanna's ability to detect emotions -- this would make it effortless to interact with her, as I wouldn't need to use any social queues in order for her to know what I was feeling, and even if my feelings were much less than those around me, she would still be aware of precisely what I was feeling.
I loved the rough history of Tasha Yar, Kira Nerys and Ro Laren, all pretty similarly difficult lives. I have always found it attractive when a person can get through horrible situations in their life, abuse and traumas, and manage to come out the other side still hopeful about life, still learning, not just carrying on the abuse they experienced to others. THIS is attractive to me!
With 7 of 9, I hated that the show producers (Rick Berman ruined the Star Trek franchise in my opinion, the more he got involved, the more campy and ridiculous Star Trek has gotten) removed a perfectly interesting and developing character in Kes, and replaced her with a walking set of breasts. I eventually came to really like 7 of 9, especially with her trying to figure out human interactions from a completely outside perspective. Same with the holographic doctor on Voyager (he never chose a name for himself, did he?) and Data.
I found Data's daughter attractive as well, because of her difficulties fitting in and understanding humans, but she only lived for a couple days or so:

The way that attractiveness operates for me is like this:
1) I see a person in the distance.
2) I intake every bit of information I can about them even before I get close to them: what clothes they are dressed in, body language, mannerisms, what activity they are doing, hairstyle, etc.
3) I heavily analyse all this and come up with likelihoods for which things this entity is following/motivated by. For most people this is the monetary system, which I find repulsive. So before I even have arrived at the person I often find them unattractive.
4) If I was unable to see any motivations which I find unattractive, then I will look at their physical appearance to see how attractive or not attractive they are on a purely physical level. I do NOT allow this physical analysis of them to EVER influence my behaviour and actions toward them.
5) Once I arrive at the person, I continue to heavily analysis them, via body language and the content of what they say. I again search for more clues as to what motivates them in their life, and whether I find the things they are being lead by attractive or not.
6) Based on my ongoing observations in #5, my view of their physical attractiveness in #4 will continually shift. If I started out thinking they were physically unattractive, but I liked their behaviour, that would rapidly replace any notion I had for physical appearance. Or vice versa, they may start out looking absolutely attractive to me, but once they open their mouth and divulge how shallow they are, they look extremely ugly.
The primary reason why characters on Star Trek don't look "totally alien" is because they have had horribly small budgets to work with, so the facial foam masks is usually all they could afford to do. I would not care how alien they looked, if I found their behavioural routines attractive.
As a random example, I have always found Deanna's mother, Lwaxana Troi, very attractive. This is because she knows what she likes, and goes after it. She is not deterred by anybody else's negativity, and lives life full of energy. Plus the reading of minds would certainly make interacting with her effortless.
However, she probably would not like me, as my thoughts would certainly overwhelm or disconcert her.
I think you are confusing eros with philios. Eros is physical attraction, whereas philios is attraction/respect for the person such as you want to be their friend. Additionally, there are two other types of love, agape which is a love of the will/commitment which is "in sickness and in health, for better or worse", and there's storge which is a love based upon the desire to help those who are helpless.
Question though, are you willing to claim that you'd find an LV426 xenomorph attractive if it met your behavioral criteria for you finding them attractive?
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I am not confusing the two. I am saying that with the way my brain functions, mental attractiveness always trumps physical attractiveness.
If I see someone in the street wearing makeup, donning brand clothing and chatting about last night's episode of some stupid reality show -- they are completely ugly to me. Doesn't matter if they meet every physical quality that I would otherwise find attractive.
Yes, absolutely.
However, as per the Aliens movies, they are clearly not behaviourally compatible with what I find attractive.
If you want a more "down to Earth" reference, I find many species of animals that other people think are ugly or scary, to be quite beautiful. This is simply because I've studied them and like what they are.
I have spent my life unlearning prejudices taught to me as a very young child, such as the fear of spiders, insects, snakes, reptiles, and so on. I never learned to think that species such as bears, deer, racoons, cats, dogs, elephants, whales, dolphins, etc. were ugly, so I have never found them to be off-putting or disgusting.
The more one studies and learns about any given entity, the more similarities to themselves they discover, the more they can relate to that entity, the more comfortable they are with it, the more attractive it is.
You will never find a young child who thinks anything is "ugly", this reaction *must* be learned from somewhere. Children only react with curiousity, unless they have a personally bad experience with a given creature or type of creature. It takes prejudiced parents, teachers or peers to indoctrinate fear into children.
I have spent my life unlearning to have that same childhood perspective, and it has been a wonderful accomplishment for me. I no longer fear most insects, I have held iguanas and snakes and hedgehogs and frogs and so on. It is quite liberating to remove prejudices and other irrational fears.
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Well, another thing here about this thread is that it asks about an entire "alien species" rather than individual members. Only individual members can be judged somewhat properly according to whether they are respectable as friends or enemies, whereas when considering the general physical attractiveness of them on the basis of a small sample is more valid than considering the general amiability of them. Characters such as the Borg Queen can be considered physically attractive, on the basis of having a female human body, even though their character is reproachful. The reproachfulness of character does detract from physical beauty though, and similarly probity of character does greatly magnify one's physical beauty.
Centauri for the tentacle pr0n.
Narn for G'kar (I have a weird crush on G'kar) and also the Elizabethan way they dress.
Me too! I adore him. But not because he's attractive. XD
And to various other parts of this thread, I think aliens who are nearly indistinguishable from humans shouldn't count.
