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26 Nov 2019, 11:39 am

I know Raleigh is cool; I was speaking about "sarcastic" people in general.

People are definitely drawn to them----because they are seen as being "people of experience."

Rather like comedians, in a sense. It is said that comedians are the "saddest" of all people because of what they have experienced. They use all sorts of humor----sarcasm, parody, mockery, etc.

I get what you're saying. You understand the sarcasm of your brother, and it's the sort of sarcasm which helps you.



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26 Nov 2019, 11:55 am

not always help, it's like.. wow that person took that phrase/thought and turned it into something completely different! like, sort of admiring and being happy at someone's intelligence but also laughing when u get the joke. i guess it is a form of easy entertainment to have a smart sarcastic person around.

honestly though, if an ASD person has extremely high intelligence and good sense of humour, i think its a handicap.

because people see the funny things and the intelligence and way they connect things so well, they miss the problems even if they are obvious as anything.

my brother has PDDNOS and basically he should actually be labeled level 2 autism if u see what happens with him. like most of everything applies to him.

e.g. w a HUGE shelf fell on him when he was about 9 or 10... he didnt say anything till we lifted it up and we saw him so we asked:

why didnt u say anything or call out when we were all just standing around talking??

(well it was mainly me that said that as i was so freaked out that he could have been there so long and been hurt and not say anything?! everyone else just kind of laughed like it was another joke of his,,, but they werent worried like me)

and he said, i didnt know i was supposed to say something. nobody asked me anything.
and I said, we didnt ask since we didnt know u were there!

that made me so worried, about him,

but my mom was oblivious and never realized his issues.

they only know the PDDNOS now because of a report he hid from his school that they found

even then my parents had no real opinion, didnt bother to research, until i scolded them after seeing him basically rotting away smoking daily, no school nothing.

just always looking angry and anxious and not talking to anyone except sometimes when he wants to make jokes. i really really was mean to my parents because when i was calm they still were nonchalant. he's just so intelligent and the psychiatrist they went to had said he's fine.

my parents paid 1000s before that to get him assessed by psychiatrist, etc (before they knew of the PDDNOS) but the moron psychiatrist just said he had mild anxiety. when in reality it is severe and he has manymore problems.

then my parents thought ok but more issues came up. so they then flew him to pakistan and got him assessed there and my brother opened up better and was able to feel comfortable enough to kind of explain, as the psychiatrist was so good and understood him, and now he got prescribed meds which helped. except my brother stopped taking them when he came back.,


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26 Nov 2019, 11:59 am

i have a gentle sarcasm. for example, when my husband calls himself stupid, i say, "yeah, you're the dumbest person on earth," to point out he's not really dumb at all. i've also been known to say, "don't talk about my husband like that."

bloowie, you are such a loving person. i wish you and your brother well.



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26 Nov 2019, 12:09 pm

oh i never met anyone with that type of sarcasm, but i get the picture. there might be a tv character like that. I think Debra the wife of Raymond (everybody loves raymond) might have gentle sarcasm, when she isn't getting frustrated with the meanness/uncaring/manipulation of the other people.

I love the dull heavy voice of Raymond's brother in that show. My XH's lawyer has the same voice, and looks like a lighter skinned less depressed version of that actor. He's also just as tall and big and same eyes.

Then I found out they are both Jewish (the actor, already knew of the lawyer) from my brother who is a big fan of the actor, and the lawyer often flies to New York where he has family according to my X.

I started thinking of asking him if they are related as the voice is so unique.

Imagine if they were, cousins maybe, and you could ask for him to get you to send fan letter/card to the actor, next time he met him.

I know it would be rude and inappropriate, so I never asked. If I had Raymond's mom's personality I could get away with it, since everyone just accepts her rudeness and listens.


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26 Nov 2019, 12:11 pm

21st century technology is a f*****g mistake


we need to go back

democracy's days are over as much as it pains me to say it, i would love nothing more than for everyone to have a voice but we can't afford that anymore lest we lose earth.


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26 Nov 2019, 1:15 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
21st century technology is a f*****g mistake


we need to go back

democracy's days are over as much as it pains me to say it, i would love nothing more than for everyone to have a voice but we can't afford that anymore lest we lose earth.

we do live in depressing times but i have a bit of hope because the green new deal is compatible with everyone having a voice.



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26 Nov 2019, 1:53 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
oh i never met anyone with that type of sarcasm, but i get the picture. there might be a tv character like that. I think Debra the wife of Raymond (everybody loves raymond) might have gentle sarcasm, when she isn't getting frustrated with the meanness/uncaring/manipulation of the other people.

I love the dull heavy voice of Raymond's brother in that show. My XH's lawyer has the same voice, and looks like a lighter skinned less depressed version of that actor. He's also just as tall and big and same eyes.

Then I found out they are both Jewish (the actor, already knew of the lawyer) from my brother who is a big fan of the actor, and the lawyer often flies to New York where he has family according to my X.

I started thinking of asking him if they are related as the voice is so unique.

Imagine if they were, cousins maybe, and you could ask for him to get you to send fan letter/card to the actor, next time he met him.

I know it would be rude and inappropriate, so I never asked. If I had Raymond's mom's personality I could get away with it, since everyone just accepts her rudeness and listens.

yes, there is something nice about a bass voice. my husband has a deep voice, too.



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26 Nov 2019, 4:58 pm

This meme will live forever.

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26 Nov 2019, 7:00 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
21st century technology is a f*****g mistake


we need to go back

democracy's days are over as much as it pains me to say it, i would love nothing more than for everyone to have a voice but we can't afford that anymore lest we lose earth.


But if we go back we will have huge lead gasoline polluting cars, instead of the clean electric cars that are taking over.



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26 Nov 2019, 8:36 pm

A librarian complimented my dress tonight. She then began talking about fashion and i was interested and asked questions etc

but then after that conversation, i found myself constantly avoiding eye contact with her even when i was walking if i saw her nearby i would try to look away ,
and she seemed to look at me maybe to smile or say something, i would just keep my head down because i knew i had exhausted my social quota for the day...just from that.

i probably seemed rude and snobby or slightly hurt her feelings, which makes me feel guilty...

but how can she understand that if she had spoken to me again, i would be almost completely unable to respond (not out of choice), and seem even ruder??!

these are the times that maybe wearing a badge or autism type t shirt to let ppl know would be useful.

but it feels so dehumanizing, as if before ppl even know the name, they knw a diagnosis, even if they never interact with me?!


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26 Nov 2019, 8:56 pm

i was watching interviews and reading articles of barbara cartland, an english novelist who was (maybe still is) very popular and famous.

i am convinced she had aspergers. i have never read her books but she is too interesting to ignore.

there's too much that matches up for Aspergers. she just seems to be a highly gifted version to me.


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26 Nov 2019, 9:00 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
A librarian complimented my dress tonight. She then began talking about fashion and i was interested and asked questions etc

but then after that conversation, i found myself constantly avoiding eye contact with her even when i was walking if i saw her nearby i would try to look away ,
and she seemed to look at me maybe to smile or say something, i would just keep my head down because i knew i had exhausted my social quota for the day...just from that.

i probably seemed rude and snobby or slightly hurt her feelings, which makes me feel guilty...

but how can she understand that if she had spoken to me again, i would be almost completely unable to respond (not out of choice), and seem even ruder??!

these are the times that maybe wearing a badge or autism type t shirt to let ppl know would be useful.

but it feels so dehumanizing, as if before ppl even know the name, they knw a diagnosis, even if they never interact with me?!

(((blooie)))



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26 Nov 2019, 9:10 pm

thanks cathylynn. hugs back as it's always the really caring ones who say little to nothing about themselves, who are actually going through the rough times.

that's what i learned
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26 Nov 2019, 9:20 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
thanks cathylynn. hugs back as it's always the really caring ones who say little to nothing about themselves, who are actually going through the rough times.

that's what i learned
(deleted as i realized i was sharing too much of someone who is irrelevant to this forum and didnt give me permission to discuss it)

thank you.



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26 Nov 2019, 10:17 pm

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26 Nov 2019, 10:32 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
21st century technology is a f*****g mistake


we need to go back

democracy's days are over as much as it pains me to say it, i would love nothing more than for everyone to have a voice but we can't afford that anymore lest we lose earth.


But if we go back we will have huge lead gasoline polluting cars, instead of the clean electric cars that are taking over.


Actually there were lead acid battery electric cars in the beginning.


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