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16 Feb 2008, 10:25 pm

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Is The World We Live In A Lie & When We Fall Asleep We Are Waking Up In he Real Reality?

Mmmmm, I would love to wake up to a forest (Emerald green and moss green everywhere, along with touches of chocolate brown) and be a earth faerie (With emerald green eyes, elfish ears, and bright red hair)



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16 Feb 2008, 10:36 pm

An alternative to the "What if we're all living in a dream?" postulate is,

"What if our reality is really someone's simulation?".

I remember reading an argument that this is VERY likely to be true, using Bayes' theorem. I think it goes something like this: If humans don't go extinct before developing the technology to run computer simulations of their evolutionary history, they are likely to use the technology to make many many simulations of this nature. Using probability and Bayes' theorem, it is very very likely that we're living in a simulation if humans won't go extinct before developing the tech. (Because there will be so many simulated worlds compared to the "real" world.)



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16 Feb 2008, 10:37 pm

viska wrote:
An alternative to the "What if we're all living in a dream?" postulate is,

"What if our reality is really someone's simulation?".

I remember reading an argument that this is VERY likely to be true, using Bayes' theorem. I think it goes something like this: If humans don't go extinct before developing the technology to run computer simulations of their evolutionary history, they are likely to use the technology to make many many simulations of this nature. Using probability and Bayes' theorem, it is very very likely that we're living in a simulation if humans won't go extinct before developing the tech. (Because there will be so many simulated worlds compared to the "real" world.)


Very Matrix-y. Interesting.

Plato's cave, anyone?



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16 Feb 2008, 10:41 pm

Yes, it's very similar :)

Edit: For anyone not familiar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave



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17 Feb 2008, 2:49 am

viska wrote:
Yes, it's very similar :)

Edit: For anyone not familiar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave

Yes it is a lot like what the Matrix tells you about and what if it is all true? We can Feel, touch, hurt, smell, and hear in dreams so is that really all it is or somthing more... we cant be so sure which is which cause we arnt strong enough to exept that it is real. I have practiced this allot and know i can Transfer images from dreams into Reality that only i can see but somhow has an effect on everyone cause its no ordenary Image its like a freind that only appears in a dream and know I can see this person when im awake. but am I just dreaming still in the world im in right now?



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17 Feb 2008, 3:44 am

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does anyone else here have the ability to feel things in their dream?


Last nite i was listening to some cool jazzy music with my earphones on, then i thought thats enough music for tonight so i tried to take the earphones out but i didnt have them on, it was just me dreaming. The music kept going for a bit while i had my fingers in my ears trying to find the earphones :lol:, then i fully woke up and saw my mp3 player on the desk.



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18 Feb 2008, 5:01 pm

Is It All Just A Dream - CHAPTER 2: NIGHTMARES.

Are Nightmares a vision of Hell its self... Self guilt or somthing More?



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20 Feb 2008, 12:28 am

Darkness when there shouldnt be when you think thing cant get any worse it can get a lot wores farther then you can imagen.



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20 Feb 2008, 12:57 am

Nightmares are instructive; they are perfect fear. They distill exactly the most dreaded aspects of life into a pure form. The existential terror, the uncertainty... nightmares cause all of my most fascinating emotions. They are the most interesting aspect of my life sometimes.

Dreams ultimately can only display aspects of our mind, symbolically or through random activation or whatever. Nightmares are just the darkness bubbling up. What is interesting is the intensity in which they occur compared to the almost flat nothingness of non-nightmares. Does the unconscious mind too attempt to compartmentalize its pain? But then it is concentrated.

The Night Terror is something which twoshots does not get, but which fascinate him. Pure horror, the emotion without trigger, the grip of the mind turned against itself. Lost inside of myself, alone.

twoshots nightmares are generally about the schism from reality, becoming lost in a supernatural hallucinatory realm. Protracted visions of incomprehensible surreality with extreme, persistent unease. A little like the video in Ringu. Other themes are demons, ghosts, isolation, being enveloped, them coming for me. But then twoshots is always alone in his dreams; he never dreams of other people as more than npcs or adversaries.

Nearly all dreams I remember lately are nightmares.


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20 Feb 2008, 2:48 am

Ever see the Red Violin?

I think its samuel Jackson talking about owning the perfect thing.

I've had many, owned many.

Used to have a lot of dreams where I would hunt and search and work and finally get that ultimate possession and then wake up and not finding it.

These days I try to have nice dreams about intangible goals like kicking someones butt or eating really great ice cream.



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20 Feb 2008, 7:01 pm

Nightmares Are a lot Like SILENT HILL



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20 Feb 2008, 7:04 pm

Shenzie wrote:
Nightmares Are a lot Like SILENT HILL


Can You Not Type Like This? It Makes Me think of A Nineteenth-Century German Immigrant Fresh Off The Boat.



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04 Mar 2008, 9:45 pm

The World In between Life & Death what dose it all mean



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04 Mar 2008, 10:56 pm

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The World In between Life & Death what dose it all mean



It means we live and then we die.



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04 Mar 2008, 11:07 pm

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what dose


10 mg before bed, avoid mixing with alcohol.



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04 Mar 2008, 11:09 pm

Shenzie wrote:
Nightmares Are a lot Like SILENT HILL


Ah yes, Silent Hill, how I adore thee......

Anyway, I used to have nightmares that I was chased by zombies a lot. My psychologist thought it represented my social anxiety. Because I thought my peers were out to hurt me, they were represented by the zombies in my dreams. I still have those dreams, but since I have gotten over my anxiety, the zombies aren't scary any more and I can beat them down with no effort and sometimes I even get to save someone from them.


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