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09 Sep 2023, 6:42 am

On other forums people say they drink there lager super fast like 10 or 20 mins (especially if its low ABV) but I thought the whole point of socialising at the pub is to savour your beer.



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09 Sep 2023, 1:20 pm

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On other forums people say they drink there lager super fast like 10 or 20 mins (especially if its low ABV) but I thought the whole point of socialising at the pub is to savour your beer.

Not if you're a hardcore wet brained alcoholic.. then people drink a lot pretty fast, I guess.

Even in all my years of bartending I don't think I ever had a regular customer drink pints in 10-20mins. Usually at least 30-45 mins+, 60 mins+ if they were behaving themselves and keeping from spending too much money or getting too drunk too fast/pacing themselves because they knew they were going to be there for 3-4 hours and didn't want a big bill or to be too drunk to drive. But I'd say most regulars at all the different bars I worked at finished pints in well under an hour and ordered another. Most were probably illegal to drive when they left - especially now that the limit is .05 and not .08.

But 10-20mins? That would be if someone just stopped in for a Quick drink and had to be somewhere else for something but wanted to swing by, say high, have a quick beer with their friends and then leave to go to dinner or whatever. Again, these would Mostly be alcoholics who routinely drink every day after work or whatever and "can't," just go to their appointment without having a drink first. But once in a while someone might stop in for a quick drink/shot, especially near last call if they felt like it - I've done it once or twice, but still, usually if I do go pay bar prices for a drink I'm probably there at least about an hour. Just depends. Once in a blue moon I go grab a pint on a patio in the gay village just for the people watching on that street - it's entertaining. Club kids, drag queens etc.

But yeah, people saying they order another pint every 10-20mins seem to be bragging about being raging alcoholics who like to spend all their money at the pub. Pretty lame brag, (IF it's even true), IMO.


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09 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm

Yesterday I had coffee, water, buble water, gatorade and a couple more buble waters on my drive back down from kiteboarding in Squamish. Totally didn't feel like drinking any alcohol even though I had 4 "gummy sour," (candy flavoured) beers and a flask of whiskey in my bag.

Something about exercise and physical work that just makes ya want healthy food, water, and sleep - that's it. About to get ready and hit the road and go kiting again today. Eventually I'll get back to work and drink a lot less than days I just ride to the beach. Hopefully be so tired from work I Might drink one beer at the end of the night IF I even feel like it. Gonna get healthier, stronger, lighter & swifter for it, too. Plus I'm committed to getting back down to my healthier working weight about 10lbs less because I ordered custom motorcycle suspension for that weight, not fat weight. (I'm currently 218.5lbs but should be down around 208ish and will be again once I take on work again.)


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10 Sep 2023, 1:23 am

Had one can on the boat leaving the island then decided to go to the brew pub w/ a few others and had 1 pint there with dinner. Most expensive meal I've had out in a while but w/e, end of season food/drink vs. every trip up food/drink as I always bring food/water/beer etc.


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10 Sep 2023, 2:46 am

A few people last night called me sn alcoholic



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10 Sep 2023, 2:56 am

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A few people last night called me sn alcoholic


How often do you drink?


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10 Sep 2023, 6:33 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
A few people last night called me sn alcoholic


How often do you drink?



I go out drinking once or twice a week max



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10 Sep 2023, 6:38 am

If you don't drink most days then you're not an alcoholic. The recommended amount for a male is 14 units a week. Do you think you drink over that? (A pint of Bud Light is about 2 units).


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10 Sep 2023, 6:52 am

Rossall wrote:
If you don't drink most days then you're not an alcoholic. The recommended amount for a male is 14 units a week. Do you think you drink over that? (A pint of Bud Light is about 2 units).




Yes unfourtantly i do drink over that :(



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10 Sep 2023, 7:58 am

I've been drinking less and less these days, after the 1st beer, wine, shot or whatever its always downhill. diminishing returns and destruction on your body and I still get temptations so im not mr righteous. 2-3 days ago I had 2 cans of Heineken to numb the uncontrollable existential ramblings of my mind and uplift myself slightly.



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10 Sep 2023, 10:33 am

I was absolutely rat arsed on Friday night. I didn't drink more than usual but I just didn't eat anything substantial before hand.

I was still drunk for the majority of yesterday as a result. I'll remember to not do that in the future.

It's strange because I've been away for a few weeks and hardly a day went by when I didn't have a few drinks so you would think I'd be a bit hardened to it but it just mustn't work that way for me.


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10 Sep 2023, 12:35 pm

Rossall wrote:
If you don't drink most days then you're not an alcoholic. The recommended amount for a male is 14 units a week. Do you think you drink over that? (A pint of Bud Light is about 2 units).

Updated alcohol consumption guidelines in Canada from a year ago:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/proposed- ... -1.6048925

Recommend no more than 2 drinks per week, ideally.
Different guidelines for men & women as our bodies are different.
The more you drink, the higher your chances of cancer, heart disease, stroke etc.

I noticed they don't use language like "alcoholic," to label people who drink a lot.. one article said more than 15 drinks/week is considered "heavy drinking." I guess they're not calling people alcoholics anymore because it hurts feelings. :roll: I remember some guidelines that were put out a while back said something like if you drink 3 or more drinks in a day 12 or more times per year you're an alcoholic. (I think it was 3, might have been 4.) So, 4 drinks once a month and by those guidelines you're an alcoholic. Maybe they stopped quantifying and labelling people as alcoholics because that particular report was probably ridiculed by everyone lol.

No matter which way you slice it, drinking more is worse for your health and wallet whether you call yourself a social drinker, casual drinker, alcoholic - whatever. We each know how much we drink and we all have information available to us to tell us what sorts of risks we have for various damage. No sense in lying to ourselves that we're "not as bad as so and so is so I'm fine," kind of BS. If you drink, you know how much you drink and know ~exactly what risks of damage/illness you're gambling with, full stop. Some people are going to get sick and die, others seem to carry on unscathed. Knowing your family history of cancer/heart disease/stroke and lifespan etc probably gives you a pretty good idea of where you fall along the spectrum & for Most of us, alcohol is a slow poison.


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10 Sep 2023, 2:05 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Rossall wrote:
If you don't drink most days then you're not an alcoholic. The recommended amount for a male is 14 units a week. Do you think you drink over that? (A pint of Bud Light is about 2 units).

Updated alcohol consumption guidelines in Canada from a year ago:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/proposed- ... -1.6048925

Recommend no more than 2 drinks per week, ideally.
Different guidelines for men & women as our bodies are different.
The more you drink, the higher your chances of cancer, heart disease, stroke etc.

I noticed they don't use language like "alcoholic," to label people who drink a lot.. one article said more than 15 drinks/week is considered "heavy drinking." I guess they're not calling people alcoholics anymore because it hurts feelings. :roll: I remember some guidelines that were put out a while back said something like if you drink 3 or more drinks in a day 12 or more times per year you're an alcoholic. (I think it was 3, might have been 4.) So, 4 drinks once a month and by those guidelines you're an alcoholic. Maybe they stopped quantifying and labelling people as alcoholics because that particular report was probably ridiculed by everyone lol.

No matter which way you slice it, drinking more is worse for your health and wallet whether you call yourself a social drinker, casual drinker, alcoholic - whatever. We each know how much we drink and we all have information available to us to tell us what sorts of risks we have for various damage. No sense in lying to ourselves that we're "not as bad as so and so is so I'm fine," kind of BS. If you drink, you know how much you drink and know ~exactly what risks of damage/illness you're gambling with, full stop. Some people are going to get sick and die, others seem to carry on unscathed. Knowing your family history of cancer/heart disease/stroke and lifespan etc probably gives you a pretty good idea of where you fall along the spectrum & for Most of us, alcohol is a slow poison.




I am really worried about getting cancer which makes me all the more frustrated that I am putting poison into my body every weekend. It’s an illness of the mind when you can’t control your drinking.



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10 Sep 2023, 3:12 pm

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I am really worried about getting cancer which makes me all the more frustrated that I am putting poison into my body every weekend. It’s an illness of the mind when you can’t control your drinking.


Absolutely. It's a poison that hijacks your brain's signalling system and slowly makes the person increasingly dependent upon it.

In particular it's bad if one suffers anxiety because ethanol activates GABA-A receptors, reducing anxiety in the short-term but causing one's brain to get used to having them activated, meaning increased anxiety when sober.


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10 Sep 2023, 6:08 pm

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Jamesy wrote:
I am really worried about getting cancer which makes me all the more frustrated that I am putting poison into my body every weekend. It’s an illness of the mind when you can’t control your drinking.


Absolutely. It's a poison that hijacks your brain's signalling system and slowly makes the person increasingly dependent upon it.

In particular it's bad if one suffers anxiety because ethanol activates GABA-A receptors, reducing anxiety in the short-term but causing one's brain to get used to having them activated, meaning increased anxiety when sober.


This.


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11 Sep 2023, 1:09 pm

Wind was light-ish and Gusty yesterday. Most of my session it made me a better kiter, but the last 5-10mins went to s**t and I had to pull my primary safety release and self-rescue and get a ride back to the island on a seadoo. He went back out to look for my board but couldn't find it so it's lost in the ocean for now.. but has my contact info on it so good chance I'll get it back, but who knows when ? Days ? Weeks ? Maybe never ?

So, had 1 beer on the shuttle boat back to the island then went to a Sunny Chiba's Fried Chicken Mexican Cantina (1st time there) and had a taco salad and a pale ale. Had one ounce whiskey late last night.

Wasn't Super stressed or anything over the board loss, just inconvenient/annoying.. so wasn't "stress drinking," just a bit more like a very mellow "oh well, f**k it.. gonna have a drink now," vs. frustrated/angry/upset sort of having a drink - which I feel was healthier and happier than had I been all wound up tight and mad and "needing," a drink. What I need more than anything was food and water - which I could have eaten from things I packed with me.. but, end of season, board blew away, figured I'd try Sunny Chiba's seeing as we're into the last week of the season now.

Might have to go shopping Today and buy another board so I guaranteed have something to use for the last few good days of the season this week. Good thing I don't spend my board monies on drinking too much!


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