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Irulan
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26 Mar 2011, 8:40 am

Why are some people referred to as to those who in spite of their being adult, don't have a life and live in their parents' basement? Why in a basement? Can't those people just live in their old bedroom where they lived as kids and teens when they come back to their parents to live with them after an unsuccessful attempt of living on their own? Can anyone explain it to me?



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26 Mar 2011, 4:49 pm

Well, if the parents had other kids, the new kids might get that room, so the older child might have to live in the basement.



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26 Mar 2011, 5:31 pm

But when you are an adult, your parent aren't likely to have new children after your leaving home. And your other sibling who took your room afterwards, could come back to the previous room they shared with another one before you moved out, when you come back.



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26 Mar 2011, 5:34 pm

Som people are afraid to move out, I guess. Either that, or they're not fighters like we are.


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26 Mar 2011, 5:39 pm

But it's not about their not moving out (which I didn't do either) but about why they live in a basement not in a room.



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26 Mar 2011, 6:10 pm

Probably because basements are larger than bedrooms.



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26 Mar 2011, 6:17 pm

probably because its more spacious and less noisy,not intruding parent's space/vice versa.
besides basements are cool 8)


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26 Mar 2011, 6:53 pm

Irulan wrote:
Why are some people referred to as to those who in spite of their being adult, don't have a life and live in their parents' basement? Why in a basement? Can't those people just live in their old bedroom where they lived as kids and teens when they come back to their parents to live with them after an unsuccessful attempt of living on their own? Can anyone explain it to me?


Well, mysterious stranger, I think it is just another toxic meme that has been embedded into our minds from television. If you do not fly from the nest when you are 18 years of age, you are somehow immature and a social failure; doomed to contemptuous perception of self.

The basement is an anthropomorphism of this false idea of being a failure. It's dark, damp, musty, underground; a deserving dungeon where the social pariah may remain out of sight, isolated from family and friends, so they may wallow in their shame, damned and derided from experiencing acceptance by their piers until they learn to integrate properly with "society."



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26 Mar 2011, 7:12 pm

most basement dwellers I know are folks who moved into their parents' basement during their teen years. I'd always thought that the basement bedroom was a coming of age thing for some people, it's a space of your own far enough away from your parents' bedroom that you can get up to Shenanigans without actually moving away (or not have to listen to your parents arguing or getting up to Shenanigans themselves)

Plus, as someone else pointed has out, it's often more spacious, occasionally will have a separate bathroom from the rest of the house, or even a separate entrance.



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27 Mar 2011, 7:19 am

That must be a cultural thing for I would never hit upon an idea a Pole would want to move into a basement - it's the very last thing that would occur to me that anyone would perceive a basement as such a comfortable place to live. Polish basements are small, cold and dark and never have a separate bathroom ( 8O ). Sometimes I see on TV basements which are specially adapted so as the kids could play bilard in there or something but in Poland it's a really rare thing - you just keep jars with pickles in, in there, or boxes containing old school handbooks, old clothes you grew out of, various sorts of junk etc. But a place to live? Never. I had to do with just two basements in my life. My grandparents' one was very cold even at summer time, dumpy, dark and disgusting all over (and my gran used to like almost believe a ghost of a soldier murdered in it during the war was still dweling there) and divided into two halves - the right one was taken by coal, the left one, by potatoes.



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27 Mar 2011, 11:55 am

ahh! now I see...I was subject to the good old aspie "not seeing the whole picture" thing...here in Canada (and the US, I think, as well) basements are often just another level of living space in the home--they used to be pantries and laundry rooms and such but more and more (as real estate becomes more and more costly) they are being converted into actual living spaces, especially in the large cities. Some of the basements here are very nice, separate apartments almost, with separate entrance, bathroom, and even kitchens.

I understand in some parts of the world (Japan, for example) that many homes don't even have basements, so there might be a whole population of WP memebers who don't even understand what this thread is about :)



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27 Mar 2011, 1:28 pm

I really can't imagine an average Pole living in an average sized house who would have a separate laundry room at home (here you do laundry just at bathroom), maybe if you have a big house, it would be so. In Poland a basement is just a place you put the things you don't need. My grandparents lived in a village and there a basement is outside and looks something like that: http://www.rotmanka.com/zamki/mambots/c ... zzxl48.jpg While you were thinking about something like that: http://miastapolski.blox.pl/resource/80 ... 3w_011.jpg, I was thinking about a room like that - but minus the pieces of furniture and with vegetables, coal (in a village) or pickles and pieces of junk (in cities and towns) instead of them. In cities/towns basements are used like attics, we don't have an attic and our basement took its function. So for me, it's like starting to live in an attic because it's what an average basement in a city or town is.



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27 Mar 2011, 2:05 pm

I think it's a very good question. But I have seen houses where the basement looked just like a normal living space except without windows. I've never lived in a house like that, and our current one would never be livable because water comes in when it rains. It does have a working toilet... just sitting out in the middle of the basement with no walls or anything. Apparently this is common in old houses around here. :lol:



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27 Mar 2011, 4:54 pm

I would've LOVED to have a big dark cool basement to live in as a teenager.Solitude! room to dance,paint,read..sigh



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27 Mar 2011, 5:36 pm

Irulan wrote:
I really can't imagine an average Pole living in an average sized house who would have a separate laundry room at home (here you do laundry just at bathroom), maybe if you have a big house, it would be so. In Poland a basement is just a place you put the things you don't need. My grandparents lived in a village and there a basement is outside and looks something like that: http://www.rotmanka.com/zamki/mambots/c ... zzxl48.jpg While you were thinking about something like that: http://miastapolski.blox.pl/resource/80 ... 3w_011.jpg, I was thinking about a room like that - but minus the pieces of furniture and with vegetables, coal (in a village) or pickles and pieces of junk (in cities and towns) instead of them. In cities/towns basements are used like attics, we don't have an attic and our basement took its function. So for me, it's like starting to live in an attic because it's what an average basement in a city or town is.


the first picture looks like a really neat space, but I agree, definitely not to comfortable looking. Going back to your original question then, are there people who do live in basements like that in europe?



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28 Mar 2011, 8:55 am

I bet there are people who have specially adapted basements but it's rare in Poland. A basment in a city is like an attic, one in a village is most typically like in the first photo - if it is outside. But some people living in a village have basements in their house not outside - my aunt has one like taht and it's one an attic like.