"verses on the faithmind by the 3rd zen patriarch", vetronie
"etronan" is a conlang that i have been working on, on/off since mid 2013. one of the most useful ways that i have found, to pinpoint lexical and grammatical gaps to be filled in, is attempting to translate passages into the language. translating this was a nightmare at first, but as i worked my way through it and it became ever clearer what i needed to work on...it actually became rather enjoyable. word order is roughly SOV. verbs are inflected heavily by object, aspect, tense, person (somewhat...) and volition. usually not all at the same time. there are ejective consonants.
some important nuanced meanings may have gotten lost in translation but....such is life. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i've included a quick scribbling of the first translated line written in the two writing systems i have created: the top one is much more developed than the lower one. the "y"/ayin-looking letters are Ts.
this passage was sent to me by a friend, the original can be found here: http://allspirit.co.uk/hsin-hsin-ming/
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Secre Tatta yoleren patz sharelet cevhe nel in. De iexen cafeit lot in, davar xepata nenelonnavit. O zollet ago ves anni, Weillyit Sieélit phohyt phaei.
Me zoon seielen annidel, cah leren poon sharelet łarásitoie łaráseggeloth. Haxacen ele le zoon iexen ele le zoon cefa cresset, noodhie shissirie ze.
De seielen amoh shecyrie shwshora in, sehinne shissirie cylydh phaei in.
SeCre frethyn in tadha tadhet cie, de shwmie xen veshwmlet, shwmie xen vehoiephaesit.
Cah, shereavioorie al hamyatt halòossimoth, le seielen shecyrie ta shwannivin.
Veshwess shecyrie latrith nel phaive, néfilie al shori vevey net phaive.
Xen vefliphaes setwnelet shecyrie en, shyrrssiehit tse yofie latin vedha.
De zoon onallet harłyon illi tonn haipana poallet, illioorie g'holaoon onallet yl.
Vehol chell de zoon veona vemothothoth yed, zoon a Twnelet shwaa shamaná.
Elin le veCre shwzeyed, veonallet vepoalletit, gan vevasswn veadelamavit maled.
Hashwn a ielen shecyrie le shwanni ielenirie ze, a seshoriélet shecyrie haadelama shwanni ielenirie ze.
De zoon lalit damel ashit al tes, zoon washieé nooretz es seielen on.
Ryoł hadamel haashit, xenit swmie le zoon shava nel don.
Haima yavrith seshelles hayris ze, o a xinain hagevwas a sevrith hashwanni ze.
Vechell le zoon a Annikak anni, xen cre xina shoriéletit proiés.
Sezoynen le veOna Ieplen alyl, ta damelin zoynen la shwneletavriemes.
Nel yired ieleniss, la sharelet halyria ryoł.
Nel xen vephaes ien iéllet, — ienin crein on wires isorossie.
Me xen la iłoon ien elerievit, ieplen xonit, seshiss ná yed vethyfelet.
Hol iélletin seTwn on mala, o nel a ien Twn lyria.
Se seshiss veshwcolydh xen veCre, shwmie vaOna cylydh don, devit ele shecy cylydh lat, tes ryłan haxen veCre assaniss.
De shyrrshiehin charecie nel xen, seshiss assan ryłan haxen.
De xen shecyin assehiss, sevrith assihissirie áren, cah de seshiss áren, shecyin áren.
Shecyin shecyin ze sevrithimes (shiss), sheshiss (vrith) cah ze shecymes.
Me zoon shwshare wro phyh selal phyhe, zoon nel xen vemedolel shareletiss.
A setseroonai ienirie shira seiepylet raeit: twnelet shoriélet.
Veshioriélet ien sei cien in, tselit seona hol pixen.
Hazeyed veCre len nel cevheoth, o tsel anninana lotrei en coici in, de tse liin, tse lanootin, malemeletit nel xen velotrei don; la lemahe yorevesseixiss miefflo ze.
La shecyin le xen vecreatsrie dion, cahit ren lemala lelatoth.
Sevrith shecyrie talel (vrithoorie) zoonit veonlaot shwcolydhit wassiná.
De xen ossissehyn seielen nelonna in, to davar venelxadys sypitieit, seonallet hashareiss afeieélet cecailidhelet maía.
Rorienein rell mala don zolletin phyhein on?
Me zoonn vaCre Twn methifynidel shwcefa gan seona annigain shannoinissit.
Veh, hamyattatz teiephi Revesseix ielen ze hellie.
Sedatti tattashedh nel á gol gevwas o sedatti shomon latridha.
Xen Darma twn, nel hoie, zolletin setesin shwnelessirie maheiss on can.
Á Shiss hayired seshiss (leshare) en sexononn zevohirie ves ze.
Hes nelhesoth hina on mala; revesseixtatta en ren iexen cefait.
Hol illelie ciessein shwneless mala. Tse hedienin arvin vesieél cie; tes acaixe haalle shelahatz.
Lyria nelyriait, xon ielenit, xen tes á ele shyrsshien hanellieoie shie.
Me senovis hed shwaa, hol hedienin tse ryłanin leniss.
Me seshiss á shwmie share, seshecyin roiechith in incie, etsen twlherie.
Hashira á seodyme ien Twneletrie hanorya ze hol shweshin on.
De hol shecyin onnell vezet, sephaive vodikat lyrionn.
Sherein nilalal in vephaes ien shellethyn.
Shox le methifyn weillyra ze seweillyra vemethifynin, methifylet gan hesit áren.
De ryłan haxen ilellie elin, Twnelet xen nel don.
Xen raid xyseletoth fosilhetoie tatta ves ien.
To veheinne setwlheshiss en seCre en, á hol medolenin taixen ryłain.
Dwexin áren vephive xiwliss alavel in.
Cie zie nelyria, ta on lotin shwesh on, shwmie yotain mahe ta á shwmie lyriain.
Hol shori, xadys ze tes dhaxammwssit, shan tomall seadon shissirie.
Go shyrssien, filiein, revesseix arselletit xen fei shan.
Veona ien sosseletiss xen nel "dha" net "mothoth dha on".
Hamala xadel yoheinne phaiva ien en la de dwex can dalemoonn, 'Nel i'.
Ve'nel i' ien shwmie phohyt in, shwmie prashan in.
Metieé dyieoth latrel, revesseixtatta yoielen ien leipana zet.
Ielen ienit ilatelet ynifynelet proiés in velaze lolaoth; vetes shyrssieh twn roiechith annin ze.
Shoriélet go, shoriélet xana, sezałapha fosithynoth anninoorie proi cin iene.
Tadha fosithyn ago fosithynit; ren zollet, to sedolemoonin georen phayhatisin nel onnell.
Gan Xenlet Renlet en.
Nel dwexin varagynin en phazegge le iene latrel yed.
Twn shecy, shycyie hol: rigot gaxin, tho zello.
Haphive vewicarelet ien haxen tho antetsin nel-frethyniss.
Haphive vexiwl ien secreix yo nelilellet in, senel-ille za setwn shiss le waratel enimes.
Shecyie!
SeCre darimea proiés in, to vetes ren vemoth, ren via, ren lateth.
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הייתי צוללת עכשיו למים
הכי, הכי עמוקים
לא לשמוע כלום
לא לדעת כלום
וזה הכל אהובי, זה הכל.
I'm a conlanger too!
Is this a pan-Semitic language by any chance? I plan to recreate Phoneician as a modern language when I'm done with my studies, much like the Zionist linguists of the late 19th/early 20th century revived what had only survived up to then in liturgy as a daily spoken language suitable for all Jews. Looking into the Semitic languages, especially Modern Hebrew, will help me with this.
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~Zinc Alloy aka. Russell~
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DX classic autism 1995, AS 2003, depression 2008
~INFP~
cool! curious, what kind of languages have you worked on or plan to work on? fusional, agglutinative, isolating...
mine leads towards agglutinative, but it would behoove me to introduce some fusional elements, lest my inflections become too cumbersome.
no, it's not meant to be a pan semitic language actually, but incidentally, i am studying hebrew at the moment (when i can)
so i'd like to believe i know a thing or two about that.
i admit...i did steal the idea of word "roots" from hebrew and arabic and adopted it into my own creation. as those languages would have the root K.T.B/V for words relating to writing or scripture, A.T.L would be the root for words relating to "control" in etronan. in general, the shorter or longer the root is, the more broad or specific the concept is, but no idea if that's how it works in hebrew. also, vowels can be part of the root here.
also attempted to ape the "binyanim" system once, but that's become a relative feature now.
you have a very big plan...i think eliezer ben yehuda and his contemporaries would be proud. how do you plan to achieve this (roughly)?
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הייתי צוללת עכשיו למים
הכי, הכי עמוקים
לא לשמוע כלום
לא לדעת כלום
וזה הכל אהובי, זה הכל.
here's my translation of a version of the "prayer of st francis":
Praoon, ipanatá vełari hinneoorie.
Mieé xen cafe, dion ta iexen tacat;
Mieé xen aifraie, aifran;
Mieé xen dweh, wirel;
Mieé xen akott, liry;
Mieé xen shemanelet, ea;
Mieé xen sypitelet, vwiea.
Y Creinxwal, dion le ta nel yiredaná
Haflod vetieéhaflaîd.
Hashora vetieéhashiôra.
Haéxon vetieéhaîexen
To vehalèet ze le ta mothain
Vehaaifran le ta ofronin
Vemila ze le ta yophive lony vopefatin.
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הייתי צוללת עכשיו למים
הכי, הכי עמוקים
לא לשמוע כלום
לא לדעת כלום
וזה הכל אהובי, זה הכל.
