Bullies

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Why is it that most people enjoy watching weak people getting bullied?
Why is it that most people have the opinion, that bullies should be rewarded and never punished?

I would change the "most" to "some." Or maybe even "few."

I think people like to watch fights----but I don't believe they enjoy watching people being bullied, for the most part.

I don't this really belongs in PPR. Moving to Random, not GAD since it doesn't appear to be specifically about bullying of people on the spectrum.

I say most, because that is my experience. The majority of those I've discussed with online, believe that if a bully or thief or robber or the government, can do hedious stuff to innocent people who's crime was weakness, they think that is how the world should be ruled, and that disabled people or autistics or anyone else who don't fit into the majority, should be happy if they are allowed to survive and be grateful if they can have something to eat.

That's why I hate the world.

Why is it that most people will only complain about bullying, yet do nothing to prevent or stop it?

"Teacher!  Teacher!  They're ganging up on Fnordie again..."

Because preventing bullying is to change who you are as a person, to avoid being bullied.

And because anyone who defends him/herself against bullies, face punishment.

That was my experience in high school.

It hasn't been my experience in the adult world.

People have too much on their minds, usually, to think about bullying.

There's the ring leader, and then there's a group of people ranging from the ones that agree most with him/her to the ones who don't particularly agree but fear the consequences of openly voicing that disagreement .

Sadism


The bullies usually are stronger and outnumber the victims.
The person who retaliates usually gets punished, not the instigator.
The bullies are often more influential or related to or friends with someone who is more influential than the victims.
The victim is disliked.

Last edited by ASPartOfMe on 26 Nov 2019, 5:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

IMHO (In my humble opinion) bullying is a ghost from our genetic past. Some of the first animals to possess a social brain were primates.

As a child transitions into being a teenager, they are confronted with another major transition. In this age bracket they pass into puberty and teasing and bullying becomes a major force in their peer group. Those terms are very understated. The term teasing and bullying are terms developed to protect the abusers. They minimize the offense. A more accurate phrase is cruel and relentless torture. In adult society, the terms used are physical abuse, psychological abuse, and assault and they are criminal offenses.

* Bullies are very adept at what they do. It is almost like they took a course in the subject.
* They instinctively recognize those that are weak, alone and defenseless - venerable individuals. * Bullies choose to torment individuals away from the eyes of authorities. They know where in the playground or inside the school, they can strike outside the purview of the authorities. So the location of the fight generally was well hidden – not only by location they had chosen but also by the crowd of spectators that form.
* They know how to inflict the maximum amount of pain without leaving visible marks as evidence [such as a jab to the ribcage, a kick to the nuts, or a chokehold].
* They know about the unwritten rules such as the “Code of Silence” and the “Never Snitch”.
* They enforce these rules to silence witnesses.
* In general, bullies are cowards and rarely fight fair.
* They operate as a group, a gang with lieutenants and soldiers.
* In a conflict, it is always about the one (the victim) versus the many (the gang).
* You show up armed only with your fists to protect yourself, while they might show up armed to the teeth. Any fight is rarely fought on a level playing field and the conclusions are rarely left up to chance.
* And in the aftermath of the physical and verbal attack, it is always the word of the many (the gang), combined with the silence of the eyewitnesses (unwritten code of silence) against the word of the one (the victim). And in general, the victim is blamed.

To understand bullying one must look at it through the lens of a primate. The reason why teasing and bullying is exhibited in humans is because it is an evolutionary trait that evolved in primates. Primates exhibit a social tribe structure based on Alpha, Beta, and Omega members.

This structure is also exhibited in tribes of humans. Humans form into societal groups called gangs. A gang is led by an Alpha Male (otherwise known as the bully) and his lieutenants, Beta Males. Generally this tribe encompasses the entire school class because the other members of the tribe participate as soldiers in the gang or as silent eyewitnesses. The leadership of the gang is determined by brute force. A male Aspie fills the role of an Omega Male, a communal scapegoat or outlet of frustration.

One of the interesting observations about school bullying is that generally for males it peaks in the Junior High School years. This is no accident. What makes the timing of that phase interesting and special? It is because males are transitioning into puberty at that age.

In primates, Alpha Males often gain preferential access to sex or mates and as a result to reproduction and offspring. In humans, this bullying is part of thinning out the herd just prior to the mating age. It either mentally cripples Aspie males for the rest of their life or causes them to become loners and leave the tribe.

There's an easy solution to bullies.

Demonstrate that you possess both the ability and willingness to inflict overwhelming violence upon them as a response to even moderate provocation. Bonus points if you can make them piss themselves during the interaction.

Once the cost exceeds the benefits they'll move on to less scary pastures.

This.

That's right XD

Because when you try and do something about bullying, that makes you a snitch and a target. If you stand up to a bully, you are seen as the bully too for "stooping down to their level."

Seems to me like a great way to get charged by the Police with assault or grievous bodily harm. The bully ends gets off the hook and the victim ends up in jail. How is that a good outcome?

If you're dumb enough to not take measures to ensure you're not able to be connected to it, you probably shouldn't do it.

I mean, you probably shouldn't do it either way, but if you do don't get caught.