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Any women donating to WP?
I have 16%  16%  [ 3 ]
I plan on it 26%  26%  [ 5 ]
I have not and will not, got a problem with that??! !??! ! 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
I have, contacted Alex and didn't get the WP supporter tag 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
I can't afford to. If not tell me who you are in pm or in this thread 42%  42%  [ 8 ]
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25 Dec 2007, 4:15 pm

I see tags only on males and I donated $15 for now and donating more later. Have you donated and contacted Alex?

Also, if someone wants to donate to WP but cannot afford to, I will donate for one person and send Alex a pm. So who here is having difficulty and want to donate but cannot afford it? I don't like excluding anyone but I can only afford to donate for one other person.



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25 Dec 2007, 4:41 pm

I donated long ago when he first put up the sign. That pretty well blew out my altrueistic financial fund for the year. Since I aready donated, I don't qualify for your generous offer, but I wanted to support your decision to help others!


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25 Dec 2007, 4:51 pm

well, I just have noticed about 3 people with those tags, that I remember, I suppose there are more than that, one of them is female.


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25 Dec 2007, 5:40 pm

I suspect there are quite a few who donate and do not want a big tag saying "I've donated look at me!".


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25 Dec 2007, 5:48 pm

iceb wrote:
I suspect there are quite a few who donate and do not want a big tag saying "I've donated look at me!".



yeah, that is what I thought! None for me, thanks. I took sociology, matter of fact, I majored in it and will watch this social experiment with interest.

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25 Dec 2007, 5:54 pm

I've donated. Look at me.

I have no shame.



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25 Dec 2007, 6:02 pm

Kitsy wrote:
I've donated. Look at me.

I have no shame.


No problem, whatever you think is cool is!
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25 Dec 2007, 6:10 pm

I don't donate and don't plan to. I read on another forum Alex makes money from this forum for advertisements and he makes enough money already. I don't know if he uses his money on his bills like for rent or car payments but I don't know his living style so I wouldn't know. But making money from advertisements sounds reasonable enough for me to know not to donate any.




For those who do want to donate but can't afford to, can you donate at least a dollar every month?



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25 Dec 2007, 6:47 pm

Spokane_Girl wrote:
I don't donate and don't plan to. I read on another forum Alex makes money from this forum for advertisements and he makes enough money already. I don't know if he uses his money on his bills like for rent or car payments but I don't know his living style so I wouldn't know. But making money from advertisements sounds reasonable enough for me to know not to donate any.




For those who do want to donate but can't afford to, can you donate at least a dollar every month?


Do advertisements really bring in money just by them being here or do you have to click on them and buy stuff? I don't understand how that works.



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25 Dec 2007, 9:09 pm

I haven't and don't plan on it for these reasons:

1) Like Spokane said, this site has advertizers. I'm not comfortable donating to a site that's already get money this way.

2) Since the OP is asking this to women specifically: I'm very uncomfortable with the kind of atttiudes towards women various male members display here. I realize that Alex and the mods can't and shouldn't censor everyone, and these people aren't the majority. But on the same token, why would I want to donate my hard earned money to a site where I read with troubling frequency male members' nonchalant comments that are genuinely insulting to women? What's even more troubling is how often these comments go unchallenged, and I often feel that there's a sort of ASD-specific kind of misogyny that's being tolerated and cultivated here, where ASD traits are being used to justify that kind of bigotry and sustain malicious stereotypes of women. I don't think everyone's going to agree with me, but bottom line, I personally don't find WP as woman-friendly site.

3) I have not found WP a very good place for reaching out and looking for community and support, especially for a woman in her mid-30's as I am. So I'm not comfortable discussing things I really wish I could in regard to living with AS, and in particular with what I'm dealing with at this stage in my life. I do not wish to have flippant 20-something misconstrue me, or have nosy teenagers mock me, or have middle aged men insult me, or have younger male mods/admins who do not relate to my issues tell me my topic's not appropriate and delete my post. So I come here now just to waste time and alleviate boredom, and the simple fact that as a dx'd Aspie, this site in theory is open to someone like me. If I felt participating here was more personally enriching and rewarding, I might be more motivated to donate. But I don't, so I won't.



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25 Dec 2007, 9:49 pm

AspieMartian, hugs.

I know what you mean though. There are those types everywhere as you may know. It will never ever fully make sense to me even though it could be as simple as upbringing.



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27 Dec 2007, 12:44 pm

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I have not found WP a very good place for reaching out and looking for community and support, especially for a woman in her mid-30's as I am. So I'm not comfortable discussing things I really wish I could in regard to living with AS, and in particular with what I'm dealing with at this stage in my life. I do not wish to have flippant 20-something misconstrue me, or have nosy teenagers mock me, or have middle aged men insult me, or have younger male mods/admins who do not relate to my issues tell me my topic's not appropriate and delete my post. So I come here now just to waste time and alleviate boredom, and the simple fact that as a dx'd Aspie, this site in theory is open to someone like me.

Agree with much of what you say above-the population here is large & varied, which makes it quite challenging & precarious attempting to "sort the wheat from the chaff". I'm a woman in my 30's, and feel more comfortable at asdGestalt forum (Sophist's site)-it's smaller (fewer members) & calmer overall. I go back & forth between here, there, and other places online.
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iceb wrote:
I suspect there are quite a few who donate and do not want a big tag saying "I've donated look at me!".

yeah, that is what I thought! None for me, thanks. I took sociology, matter of fact, I majored in it and will watch this social experiment with interest.

As to the title of thread-I did donate, but not in the recent 'campaign', so don't expect that I qualify for a special bar/icon (and would be undecided about whether I'd want one or not). In 2005, I mailed Alex a check for $50. 'Nuff said.


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27 Dec 2007, 1:53 pm

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2) Since the OP is asking this to women specifically: I'm very uncomfortable with the kind of atttiudes towards women various male members display here. I realize that Alex and the mods can't and shouldn't censor everyone, and these people aren't the majority. But on the same token, why would I want to donate my hard earned money to a site where I read with troubling frequency male members' nonchalant comments that are genuinely insulting to women? What's even more troubling is how often these comments go unchallenged, and I often feel that there's a sort of ASD-specific kind of misogyny that's being tolerated and cultivated here, where ASD traits are being used to justify that kind of bigotry and sustain malicious stereotypes of women. I don't think everyone's going to agree with me, but bottom line, I personally don't find WP as woman-friendly site.


I agree with this, and it's very unfortunate. I don't know why there's so much hatred of women here, or if it's mainly toward "NT" women and not us, or what... anyway despite the many shortcomings of the board, I like it, and plan to donate. The only problem is apart from a retirement account that I can't withdraw from, I have no accounts of my own or CCs in just my name.



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27 Dec 2007, 6:47 pm

This thread is done with now. Found a member to donate for.


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03 Jan 2008, 9:59 am

AspieMartian wrote:
I haven't and don't plan on it for these reasons:

1) Like Spokane said, this site has advertizers. I'm not comfortable donating to a site that's already get money this way.

2) Since the OP is asking this to women specifically: I'm very uncomfortable with the kind of atttiudes towards women various male members display here. I realize that Alex and the mods can't and shouldn't censor everyone, and these people aren't the majority.

But on the same token, why would I want to donate my hard earned money to a site where I read with troubling frequency male members' nonchalant comments that are genuinely insulting to women? What's even more troubling is how often these comments go unchallenged, and I often feel that there's a sort of ASD-specific kind of misogyny that's being tolerated and cultivated here, where ASD traits are being used to justify that kind of bigotry and sustain malicious stereotypes of women. I don't think everyone's going to agree with me, but bottom line, I personally don't find WP as woman-friendly site.

3) I have not found WP a very good place for reaching out and looking for community and support, especially for a woman in her mid-30's as I am. So I'm not comfortable discussing things I really wish I could in regard to living with AS, and in particular with what I'm dealing with at this stage in my life.

I do not wish to have flippant 20-something misconstrue me, or have nosy teenagers mock me, or have middle aged men insult me, or have younger male mods/admins who do not relate to my issues tell me my topic's not appropriate and delete my post. So I come here now just to waste time and alleviate boredom, and the simple fact that as a dx'd Aspie, this site in theory is open to someone like me. If I felt participating here was more personally enriching and rewarding, I might be more motivated to donate. But I don't, so I won't.
I find a lot of common ground here and would like to be able to understand more why there is a push for donations to the site. I haven't got any answers yet.

The misogyny shown by some posters really annoys, disappoints, and sickens me. I realise it is much harder for the guys to find partners but it's not fair to blame all of us women for this situation.

I haven't been told any of my posts are unsuitable but have been given a veiled threat of banning for bringing up older threads, and was accused of spamming when I wasn't spamming.

For these reasons, I would have to be really convinced there was a pressing reason to donate. I'm not really feeling the love just yet.


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03 Jan 2008, 10:41 am

AspieMartian wrote:
I haven't and don't plan on it for these reasons:

1) Like Spokane said, this site has advertizers. I'm not comfortable donating to a site that's already get money this way.

2) Since the OP is asking this to women specifically: I'm very uncomfortable with the kind of atttiudes towards women various male members display here. I realize that Alex and the mods can't and shouldn't censor everyone, and these people aren't the majority. But on the same token, why would I want to donate my hard earned money to a site where I read with troubling frequency male members' nonchalant comments that are genuinely insulting to women? What's even more troubling is how often these comments go unchallenged, and I often feel that there's a sort of ASD-specific kind of misogyny that's being tolerated and cultivated here, where ASD traits are being used to justify that kind of bigotry and sustain malicious stereotypes of women. I don't think everyone's going to agree with me, but bottom line, I personally don't find WP as woman-friendly site.

3) I have not found WP a very good place for reaching out and looking for community and support, especially for a woman in her mid-30's as I am. So I'm not comfortable discussing things I really wish I could in regard to living with AS, and in particular with what I'm dealing with at this stage in my life. I do not wish to have flippant 20-something misconstrue me, or have nosy teenagers mock me, or have middle aged men insult me, or have younger male mods/admins who do not relate to my issues tell me my topic's not appropriate and delete my post. So I come here now just to waste time and alleviate boredom, and the simple fact that as a dx'd Aspie, this site in theory is open to someone like me. If I felt participating here was more personally enriching and rewarding, I might be more motivated to donate. But I don't, so I won't.


Hmmm So much has gone on since I went off to my room to write for six months. This is reminding me of it.

What is this donation thing? I already have visual attacks daily from the flashing ads on here. They seem pretty visually assaulting for an ASD site. Yes, we did bring that up to Alex and no, nothing happened.

The misogyny. The woman's section has never been woman friendly and the love section is a male rant section for the most part. There are thousands of members, but a few are allowed to rant on women non-stop and throw around their misguided and prejudicial statements ad nauseum. This may seem wise for the sake of being safe to say what we want here (which has its own merit as an argument), but it also continues the misconception and does nothing for these guys to learn to see things objectively so they can function better in the real world. I see that as a problem in addition to the fact that most women won't just tell them they don't care what they think about anything like I will. (I have found I'm not even a normal AS woman and I'm actually much closer to most of the AS guys so my reaction to their rants has been different.) So the end result of freedom of expression here is that it has perpetuated myths that are actually harmful to these boys and men and it has run women off who need support.

I don't know about Sophie's site. I visited once, but I'm no advocate of Psychology and Psychiatry owning AS or even being involved so that doesn't suit me. There is a Yahoo group for AS Women that is strictly women. It's very good. I suggest you check it out.

For me, I'm still the oddball there many times, but there isn't the havoc there is on this site. That has made it a much better experience. They are very supportive there.


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