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Phillip_J_Fry
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11 Mar 2011, 10:46 pm

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a good commune needs a builder! I'm a gardener, seed-saver, composter and beekeeper, I used to teach daycare and have always wanted to keep goats. My sweetie is taking metalworking classes and would love a forge. my fantasy aspie commune would have some aspie artists and studios and artisinal farmers..


You are reading my mind! I have always wanted a goat as a kinda half pet, half milk factory. I love the idea of beekeeping too. The Samburu tribe in east Africa make honey liquor that is supposed to be pretty kick-ass. I also dig the idea of a metalworking shop. I have been looking into growing potatoes in barrels and raising chickens in the backyard.

I think the biggest obstacle would be the land. You couldn't really buy the land and get the thing going unless you had enough people on board to make a go of it, but no-one would really sign on for sure unless they knew it was a definite. Kind of a catch-22.



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11 Mar 2011, 11:30 pm

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haha.. I've just wikipedia'd the Mennonites, and came upon something new, the idea of a non-theist Friend (or athiest Quaker). Our local Mennonites seem to do pretty well, their cratsmanship is widely admired, and I think there's a whole village of crafters and artisans.

I think if you get a critical number of aspies together, our strengths and weaknesses might work out :) I can get really into washing dishes or doing laundry, especially if I get to hang the laundry outside. There's something about drudge work that I find so peaceful, almost like a functional meditation. :)


I thoroughly enjoy organizing and household things.


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12 Mar 2011, 12:15 am

While it's kind of a neat idea, I don't think I could stand it. I have a relatively keen sense of normalcy, and anyone too far 'outside the lines' only irks me and puts me on edge; I feel a lot less stressed out around NTs, I guess, in certain ways. I'd probably be wanting to punch someone before the end of the first week; not that I'd actually ever do that.


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12 Mar 2011, 12:29 am

I don't guess an Aspie Commune would appeal to every Aspie any more than a Hippie Commune would appeal to every hippie. In my mind, the whole thing would basically be a safe environment to be an Aspie, with a lot of shared resources like gardens, mechanical shops, pooled expertise, etc.
If I was a billionaire, I'd buy like 150 acres of land and build a bunch a small, efficient houses in a rough circle with all the communal stuff in the center, and hedges and crops in between the houses so you had a reasonable amount of privacy from your neighbor.
Start with that, then work toward self-sufficiency. Like the people above said, you get a beekeeper, a farmer, a blacksmith, a mechanic, a baker, a computer tech, etc.



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12 Mar 2011, 12:42 am

I love cleaning, so don't worry about the dishes as long as someone else cooks! haha

PS - I live in a small apartment community by the beach in Puerto Rico's poorest town...land is rather cheap here vs. other beach places...it is great for our son...the set up is perfect...two rows of condos, all facing a middle grassy area with a sidewalk in the middle...beach at the end...my son goes out, rides his bike, talks to others...when he can't deal with it anymore, we close the windows and he goes to his room...me too! My husband is NT so he likes to be with others all the time...but understands our need to be alone sometimes, actually, many times and respects it...and then we have the beach to relax when we are overwhelmed...it's great...I actually came here temporarily and we think we might buy something here...not sure yet...but it's perfect for kids with autism as there is no danger that they'll walk away (it's gated) and yet they can learn to socialize on their own terms vs. a school where it is forced...our son has flourished here...he was chosen as the "Prince for Valentine's Day"...haha...and when he came here he hardly liked to talk to anyone and has a speech delay...

I'd love to have an aspie commue...hehe



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12 Mar 2011, 1:23 am

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Our own city, perhaps. But, no offense, I don't even want to live with other aspies. I need my own space. :lol:


Yeah, I'm with you on this. The only way living with other people with problems like I have would be possible is if there was at least a half-mile between my dwelling place and the closest of them. When I've been asked who I would most like to live with, I'd say, "Someone who can tolerate endless pet peeves and a need to control my environment." When I've been asked who I would least like to live with, I'd say, "Myself, or anyone like myself."



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12 Mar 2011, 4:36 am

interesting idea, wouldnt it cause more conflict though? with aspies freaking out at each other? guess it depends what sort of aspies you include, i know id go mad living inclose quarters for any length of time with most aspies. i guess though, that being just aspies you wouldnt really have to socialise with them. but then it would be boring. maybe these would be first generation aspie issues, once you start breeding then the aspie kids would grow up with each other and in the environment and so be better able to make it work harmoniously? and what happens if you were to start an all aspie commune, then the aspies had kids and not all the kids were aspie? would the aspie parents have to leave the commune untill their nt kids were old enough to fend for themselves and the parents could return without them? would their be visitation days for nt relatives to visit their aspie families? or would the aspies have to go and visit their families outside of the commune?
just some thoughts 8)

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12 Mar 2011, 8:40 pm

As Fry said, the commune idea might not work for everybody, and for those people who do like the idea, we probably have very different ideas of what sort of area we'd need for such a space.

I've been talking with friends about doing this for years, and the idea is that we'd each have our own house/space on different parts of a medium sized farm. We'd communally share things like garden work, vehicles, maintenance of land and buildings, and also shared creative spaces (like a pottery studio or glass studio or forge) but we'd each maintain our own household--not anything like dorm living . Ideally, it'd be like living where I live now, except my neighbours would be my friends and we'd have more green spaces around us :)

I don't think I could share an actual home with anybody but my sweetie. Aspie or no, too many bodies in my personal space would stress me out.



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12 Mar 2011, 9:19 pm

I think it would be a great thing to try and then if it didn't work out. So be it!

Can't be any worse than living in the NT world can it? You'd be more likely to have a shared understanding and a mutual level of respect.



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12 Mar 2011, 9:36 pm

I've got 2 dollars, a hammer and a few nails. Where's the party?


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12 Mar 2011, 9:45 pm

I'm down. I have experience in construction/renovation, landscaping, drafting and most importantly, education
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12 Mar 2011, 9:52 pm

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I've got 2 dollars, a hammer and a few nails. Where's the party?

I've got two pesos and a chess set out of construction materials. Lead the way.

...seriously though, an aspie commune? Does that mean I can not look at people or appear standoffish to them and they won't think I'm a horribly rude person? Does that mean that I can not talk at all when I'm in a group and nobody will judge me if I start going on and on about random stuff? :")



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12 Mar 2011, 10:53 pm

I think for this to work it needs to be done on a small scale in many places and gradually amalgamised. for example, in my city, a small number of aspie houseshares clubbing in to rent out an entire block somewhere. If this was repeated a few times it could result in an entire village but it would take a lot of commitment


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12 Mar 2011, 11:55 pm

I would like to live in a missile silo.



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13 Mar 2011, 11:32 am

I'm a carpenter so I'm in as long as I can live on the mountain looking down on the community. Oh and I need a motorbike and some decent twisty roads.



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13 Mar 2011, 11:40 am

Bethie wrote:
Phillip_J_Fry wrote:
Bethie wrote:
I dreamed of living on an off the grid commune with my fellow hippies (most of us do shower, btw ;)) since long before I was diagnosed Aspie, and it sounds like a wonderful idea!


Awesome, me too! And you're from my home town (Oldham County boy here), AND you quote my all-time favorie book when I was a kid in your sig. Are you single? :D




Totally. AND I love Futurama.

Wanna make out?

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