Is there any position lower than being AS socially.

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Life isn't always what you make it. Some people can make all the effort in the world to do the right things, and they still get knocked back. What about those who get cancer? They didn't cause that to happen. My great aunt never smoke or drank, but she got cancer in her 50s. She didn't make life go that way.

Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's writings may be relevant to some. When researching happiness, he found that many of the happiest people are people who have "less." Perspective really does shape your perception of reality.

He is also the psychologist who posited the idea of flow. Going to start another thread.

I think anything is a bad as you feel it is at that point in time. If having AS feels like the worst that can happen, and it's happening to you, then it probably is the worst thing that can happen until either something that feels worse happens (that you couldn't have previously imagined) or your mindset changes.

It seems unfair to assume that just because one person finds a difficult situation manageable that others should also. It seems possible that for someone who wishes there were a way out of their life (perhaps beacuse they feel that their AS makes it not worth living), but one that didn't involve actually having to commit suicide which must be a huge and terrifying decision, and who is not familiar with the details of what dying of cancer actually entails, then cancer might seem like a preferable option: i.e. one that offers some positive attention and sympathy/empathy to be given for a change and ultimately might take the decision of whether and how to kill yourself out of your hands & into the hands of fate/God/the laws of nature. I think it's reasonable to take on board that this might seem preferable to some people, although personally I can't imagine feeling this way now as I know too much about cancer!

To Joe90, hard as it seems right now, it is possible that your mindset could change. There are things you can do that might help it (don't ask me what these are - they'll be personal to you - for some it's reading self help books, for other it's accessing some kind of support, for other it's music, for others it's prescription medication, or sport, or writing, or psychotherapy, or dressing as a trannie, or changing their diet.....the list is endless and can be combined in infinate combinations obviously.......) If you're lucky, things just might start to feel better as you get older, build your mental defences and learn to understand yourself a little better.....somehow I've found that the predominance of issues that caused me terrible mental pain when I was younger has just altered in their proportion to other things that go on in my life now. All I know is that when younger I sometimes felt like you do now and I lived a life that caused great pain for people who loved me - but I don't any more, and life's quite a lot easier than it was then eevn though I have more responsibilities and isues/tasks to juggle. Life's a weird and bumpy journey for everyone - and possibly much bumpier for those of us who are differently wired, but I should think most who make it into middle age would agree that it was worth hanging in there for. It just takes time to work out why we should hang around, so I'd at least postpone any terminal decisions until you've given it more of a chance.

bin laden was a member of one of the richest family's in the world. I think he ran a happy life growing up a billionaire with tons of goverment connections, getting trained by the cia in the 80s. I wouldn't put him at the bottom he was probably more in the top 5% seeing as he had the entire world wanting to talk to him.

yes, it is what you make it. first off, we're talking about having asperger's syndrome, which is a condition from birth. it is not a disease like cancer. nonetheless, i've known many people who've had cancer, some of whom have died of it, who held a better attitude towards life than the op seems to express about his/her own.
i've been through many difficult times in my life. some of my own causation, some that was terrible circumstance, but at no time did i ever let myself believe that i am of any lower standard or social status than anybody else. that is what i mean when i say that life is what you make it. perhaps to be more concise and literal i could have said "life is what you make of it." but i don't think that triviality matters.

if a person chooses to be angry or despair, does that make their perceptions of life better? does it help them to make their life more as they wish it to be? does it help others to want to help or be sympathetic?

No, she didn't put her life in that state... BUT her choice of outlook was in her hands... Unless you are unmedicated and suffer from a mental condition that prevents it, you have the ability to change your outlook.

Simply put, life is what you make it is roughly the same as saying, "if you're bored- then your boring..."

I don't talk about my past at all, but I can say, I had it rough... and I still, because of outlook, have had an awesome life.

I make a lot of effort with my posts on here but they never get as many responses as yours do - I find that annoying but I deal with it. Your cousins invite you out to socialise - mine either never communicate at all or just about manage to say hello on the few occasions our paths ever cross.
You say you get men smiling at you - again this does not happen often to me unless in formal situations where it's expected and even then it's hit and miss!

So it seems to me that you are generally more accepted by people than me - that is an advantage and you should appreciate things like this as opposed to obsessing about negative things.

Also, I once sent you a PM which you never replied to so it seems to me you already see yourself as higher up some kind of social hierarchy. You can't have it both ways.

Maybe in the US, but in some parts of the world Bin Laden was a folk hero.

And there you have it - people hasten to change the subject when I post! It's the indecent speed of the reply that gets to me. On a thread with no movement whatsoever, I've only got to post for people to queue up to post their agreement with someone 6 pages higher up the thread!
"It's imperative that I post right over the head of this (insert derogatory adjective) person as soon as possible or someone might make the terrible mistake of replying to her!"

So I've just changed it back on track for a change as this kind of thing really p-s me off!

I have analysed why this occurs and am pretty sure it has a lot to do with myself being an advocate of open, honest and straightforward communication which is in direct conflict with a lot of forum communication, which concerns the endless regurgitating of internet and media-related memes and promoting a 'cool' image.

he defeated super powers in Afghanistan
Afghanistan is also know as the graveyard of empires

And?

How exactly does this relate to the original thread topic?

I'll say something for this discussion board - it makes me crave the company of NTs!
And as I hate most of them that's saying something!

Osama Bin Laden is dead so he's out of the contest

As your post was also off the original topic, you have no real reason to complain here. Also, no one was trying to sleight you here either. Multiple little conversations between members tend to take place inside of threads and quotes are used to keep them threaded together. This is how forums work. I would also say that posting in a thread bumps it to the top of the page and brings it back to the attention of others who are reading the forum, thus making the likelihood of a new response higher. Please don't see offense where none was intended. As your prior post was fairly far off the original topic, why not start a new topic so that people will have a chance to respond to your question? It will have a much higher chance of being noticed than if you bury it in an ongoing thread.

So far as it goes, I post A LOT. This is not really because I am popular but rather because I am bored and lonely. I actually would not think of myself as being popular on here but it might appear I am because of the volume of posts I put out. I meant you no offense and hope you take none from me.

Hmm, what about that guy everyone just found out cheated on his wife? Or the person responsible for laying off 50% of the employees. Being a child of a outspoken politician. The girl someone started a rumour about saying she likes to sleep around. Someone suspected of paedophilia but they couldn't find evidence against so they were let off, and it was just a rumour that went way out of hand.

It sucks being autistic but it's not always the lowest thing to be in a social circle.

I could probably think of more. No.1 is a big one though.

People who call themselves an expert on autism and don’t have a clue what they are talking about, then get paid a small fortune in wages for doing what, stressing out patients and misdiagnosing them.

Like politicians they are worth their weight in crap.

I wish I hadn't said anything on this thread.

So ''life is what you make it'' means ''nothing is ever beyond your control''.

I think you know it doesn't mean that as nothing ever being beyond your control is a totally illogical concept. I take it you are familiar with logic?