Study finds that Vitamin D deficiency is linked to autism

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15 Dec 2016, 10:41 pm

Correlation is not causation.

Where are those charts that show that cancer rates are directly proportional to the publishing of Steven King novels? Someone must have them handy on there computer.

Its time for America to start understanding science enough to stop making BS assumptions when we see a study.



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16 Dec 2016, 1:26 am

I think some Aspies are deficient in vitamin D because we tend to go outside less due to the way autism affects us. We tend to prefer more indoor activities & we have sensitivities to people, noise, & temperature.


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16 Dec 2016, 2:11 am

"alterations in the gut microbiome may play a pathophysiological role in human brain diseases, including autism spectrum disorder, anxiety, depression, and chronic pain" - gut microbes and the brain

Anyone heard anything more about this?



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16 Dec 2016, 2:38 am

^^^definitely heard that.



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16 Dec 2016, 7:36 am

somanyspoons wrote:
...Its time for America to start understanding science enough to stop making BS assumptions when we see a study.

Such a utopian society would be helped immensely with a pharmaceutical industry exhibiting an honesty commensurate with the society's knowledge. Oh, wait. That is what we already have. In other words, it is up to each individual to be and remain informed.


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16 Dec 2016, 8:04 am

According to my genetic profile, I have a VDR mutation as did both my parents. This means we are very prone to the deficiency. I developed scoliosis as a young teenager. Most of my health problems are neurological and immunological. Even here in Florida where I spend most of my time outdoors, my D levels can get very low, verified by regular blood tests.

Those of us not prone to black or white thinking may perhaps realize that epigenetics and genetics are behind all kinds of neurological disorders, and that when a corrolation is made, it may help us both manage and prevent future problems. I hope more studies are done. The simple addition of more daylight and supplementation has made a world of difference in my own health.

Thanks for the article!


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16 Dec 2016, 10:54 am

BeaArthur wrote:
wow, talk about meeting new concepts with hostility!

There might turn out to be some truth to it, so my approach is wait and see. Naturally, there will be attempts to replicate the study in other populations.

If it were true, how easily autism could be prevented by simply taking vitamins!



That's exactly what I thought when I started another thread yesterday with the same story. It doesn't hurt us to keep an open, skeptical mind and until the details of autism are well known, which today it isn't...



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16 Dec 2016, 4:42 pm

I saw it was a "yahoo" article, I immediately closed the tab lol



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16 Dec 2016, 5:35 pm

ZombieBrideXD wrote:
Suuuuuure it is


There has been cause to think that there is likely to be a link for some time. Most of these reasons were set out in a paper in a journal called Medical Hypotheses or something like that not too many years ago.



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16 Dec 2016, 5:38 pm

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if vitamin d deficiency is linked to autism. then is there less autistic people in sunny countries?


Yes.

Supposedly autism is relatively rare in Africa, but not in Europe. In Somalia autism is quite rare, but the rate is much, much higher among Somalian refugees living in the northern US.

Also, within the US, autism is supposedly increasingly more common the further north you get.



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16 Dec 2016, 5:44 pm

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In case this isn't a complete honey pot for cranky autists, I have low Vit-D and have since I was just out of college. But, does it "cause" my autism? Probably not. After all, I take Vit-D supplements everyday, and my autism is still there. And, my mother wasn't a refrigerator, Messers. Kanner and Bettelheim.


Autistic people tend to have substantially greater numbers of neurons in parts of their brain. Considering that the building of the brain by neurons takes place during pregnancy, it doesn't seem likely that something that may contribute to the problem during pregnancy (i.e. low Vitamin D) would not somehow magically fix the problem later.



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16 Dec 2016, 8:20 pm

I've always had a vitamin D deficiency. I always chalked it up to not going into the sun. I once even went so far as to put black plastic trash bags on my bedroom window to keep out the sun. (It was the middle of winter and when the sun reflected off the snow, it REALLY hurt my eyes. I was entrusted to look out for and care for the goat and the other outdoor pets while my parents went to go see my brother's wife have her baby in another state. I just fed them at night because the sun reflecting off the snow was REALLY painful when it hit my eyes. Anyhow, I've never really been fond of the sun (my dad always called me a "vampire") and lead a practically nocturnal life until very recently. (I probably could go nocturnal again if I had a good reason too). But anyhow, I always thought the not getting enough vitamin D was because I refused to go into the sun.


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16 Dec 2016, 8:22 pm

I think autism is cause by a deficientcy of banality.





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16 Dec 2016, 9:03 pm

I recently read this study and found myself once again scratching my head wondering, what more absurd ideas will people come up with to explain the potential cause of all autistic related disorders. Seriously, quite trying to look for the cause and rather spend your time trying to help people deal with many of the difficulties that one has to deal with in life.


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17 Dec 2016, 12:09 am

MagicMeerkat wrote:
I've always had a vitamin D deficiency. I always chalked it up to not going into the sun. I once even went so far as to put black plastic trash bags on my bedroom window to keep out the sun. (It was the middle of winter and when the sun reflected off the snow, it REALLY hurt my eyes. I was entrusted to look out for and care for the goat and the other outdoor pets while my parents went to go see my brother's wife have her baby in another state. I just fed them at night because the sun reflecting off the snow was REALLY painful when it hit my eyes. Anyhow, I've never really been fond of the sun (my dad always called me a "vampire") and lead a practically nocturnal life until very recently. (I probably could go nocturnal again if I had a good reason too). But anyhow, I always thought the not getting enough vitamin D was because I refused to go into the sun.


Has anyone suggested that autism directly affects the amount of vitamin D present?

Anyway, in most of the US, you aren't going to get any vitamin D from the sun in the winter time, so don't worry about avoiding the sun in the winter.



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17 Dec 2016, 12:14 am

kazanscube wrote:
I recently read this study and found myself once again scratching my head wondering, what more absurd ideas will people come up with to explain the potential cause of all autistic related disorders. Seriously, quite trying to look for the cause and rather spend your time trying to help people deal with many of the difficulties that one has to deal with in life.


The idea is hardly absurd. Furthermore, it is very worthwhile to try to determine. It could be that recommending that pregnant women take Vitamin D might really reduce the number of autistic children.

If you think they shouldn't do that, then how do you feel about recommending that pregnant women take Vitamins B9 and B12 to reduce the incidents of neural tube defects in newborn children?