We as Aspies are superior compared to NT(non AS/ASD)people

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31 Jul 2018, 4:58 pm

no.


stop.


stop that. stop that right now.


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31 Jul 2018, 5:00 pm

Honestly I'd like to put us on a palatial space station like that Elisium movie and then use the Death Star to fire on the NTs left on Earth...


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31 Jul 2018, 5:05 pm

Deleted because I went too far. These threads really irritate me.

When you’ve met one NT person, you’ve met one NT person.


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31 Jul 2018, 5:10 pm

This is ridicu-speak. Where in history have we ever had a society of homogenous individuals where they all got along just swimmingly?

White nationalists want a white America. Yeah, like that's gonna work. White people have been at war with white people for years, just like black people have been at war with each other for years, just like Asians have been at war with each other for years, just like Muslims have been at war with each other for years, just like aboriginal Australians have been at war with each other for years, just like Native Americans have been at war with each other for years, etc.

All we need now is an Aspie nation where we are bound to be at war with each other for years. No thanks. Diversity suits me just fine.



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31 Jul 2018, 5:15 pm

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This is ridicu-speak. Where in history have we ever had a society of homogenous individuals where they all got along just swimmingly?

White nationalists want a white America. Yeah, like that's gonna work. White people have been at war with white people for years, just like black people have been at war with each other for years, just like Asians have been at war with each other for years, just like Muslims have been at war with each other for years, just like aboriginal Australians have been at war with each other for years, just like Native Americans have been at war with each other for years, etc.

All we need now is an Aspie nation where we are bound to be at war with each other for years. No thanks. Diversity suits me just fine.


Yeah. I mean there’d be a huge rift in the Aspies who prefer Star Wars and those who prefer Star Trek alone...


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31 Jul 2018, 5:26 pm

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Another NT-basher who thinks autistics are the only non-NT people in mankind and also that autistics are superior.

Yeah, some autistics might be superior but not ALL. I certainly ain't, and I don't even want to be superior. And I'm Aspie but I enjoy socialising and gossiping, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

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You made a similar post in the social skills and making friends forum. What gives?

^This 100%.



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31 Jul 2018, 5:42 pm

i hate nts


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31 Jul 2018, 6:36 pm

Fnord wrote:
rick42 wrote:
I believe ...
Belief is not only irrelevant, it also proves nothing.

:roll:

Your entire thesis lacks citation. Please verify your credentials and/or expertise on "superiority".


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31 Jul 2018, 6:39 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
no.


stop.


stop that. stop that right now.


me realising time and the inevitability of death :D


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31 Jul 2018, 6:45 pm

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I'm not interested in the superior inferior debate. I see it this way: We are what we are for life, and we need to accept it and make things as good for us as we can.

Fact is the NT world is geared to make most of us miserable for most of our lives. I believe we need our own schools, our own institutions, hell our own NATION where NTs would not be welcome.


I agree.We need our own institutions,our own business,etc.NT people hate AS/ASD people.They would found any excuse to remove us from a job(if we can get a job to begin with since most of us are unemployed),NT'don't even try to get to know the AS/ASD person before they reject them, and then wonder why we ignore them completely.NT's (including NT's who have other neurological disorders such as ADHD,Schizophrenia,Bi Polar disorders,dyslexia,etc)spend all of their time socializing,gossiping,Judging AS/ASD people,looking down,or hating AS/ASD people,always ridiculing us no matter what.



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31 Jul 2018, 6:51 pm

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I had a little anti-NT bias myself at one point, but then realized that w/o NTs many of us couldn't survive. You're sounding like those radical people on twitter of the new SJW-esque neurodiversity movement, blaming NTs for everything wrong with their life and expressing no personal responsibility for anything. Neurodiversity was dead when those radicals took over. I unfollowed most of them and was blocked by many for not toeing the line. I'm done with it.

NTs are equal, no better, no worse. They have faults, we have faults. There are rude, manipulative aspies, there are rude manipulative NTs. There are judgemental NTs, there are judgemental aspies. Etc, etc, etc.


NT's and AS/ASD people are not equal.NT's don't see us as equal at all and I don't see NT's as my equal.We are a far different and superior people. Also how can there be a manipulative Aspie when a vast majority of us have poor social skills?



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31 Jul 2018, 6:58 pm

rick42 wrote:
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I had a little anti-NT bias myself at one point, but then realized that w/o NTs many of us couldn't survive. You're sounding like those radical people on twitter of the new SJW-esque neurodiversity movement, blaming NTs for everything wrong with their life and expressing no personal responsibility for anything. Neurodiversity was dead when those radicals took over. I unfollowed most of them and was blocked by many for not toeing the line. I'm done with it.

NTs are equal, no better, no worse. They have faults, we have faults. There are rude, manipulative aspies, there are rude manipulative NTs. There are judgemental NTs, there are judgemental aspies. Etc, etc, etc.


NT's and AS/ASD people are not equal.NT's don't see us as equal at all and I don't see NT's as my equal.We are a far different and superior people. Also how can there be a manipulative Aspie when a vast majority of us have poor social skills?


Persecution complex?

Most NTs don’t hate us. There’s lots of good people out there.

I don’t know what experiences you’ve had, but not all NTs are bad, and they’re not inferior.

Sure, there are bad people, but that’s not all people or all NTs. There are “bad” Aspies.


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31 Jul 2018, 7:00 pm

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i hate nts

Hating a group because of something they can't control is exactly what is wrong with some NTs. It's hypocritical to point out this flaw in NTs and then do it yourself. I have met NTs that say I will fail in life because I have no social skills. I've also met NTs that are very supportive and hate Autism Speaks. To generalize that all NTs are ableist is just as bad as feminists that hate all men. I don't hate NTs, and I don't think anyone should hate any one group of people, "oppressors" or not.


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31 Jul 2018, 7:34 pm

rick42 wrote:
I believe we as Aspies are superior becasue of what we go through.We are also more logical.We are not annoying.We don't gossip. We don't ridicule other people or look down on other people.Also,we don't need to have any friendships or romantic relationships unlike the other 99% of the population, whether it's becasue we don't have the desire to or we simply just not bother anymore becasue of being rejected so much.We as AS/ASD people are a far different and superior people.


Funny thing is I've been around in direct contact with far more Aspies than NT's in my life. So my perspective of Aspies isn't as rosy. I've been teased and picked on by plenty. Ostracized by most. In school they did have cliques. There was a pecking order. Many Aspies of WP have been in romantic relationships and are married. Many married with children.

I once pissed off a lot of Aspies on WP by asking them how they could be autistic and yet have such NT-like lifestyles.

RainbowUnion wrote:
i hate nts


I hate everyone equally.



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31 Jul 2018, 7:38 pm

rick42 wrote:
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I had a little anti-NT bias myself at one point, but then realized that w/o NTs many of us couldn't survive. You're sounding like those radical people on twitter of the new SJW-esque neurodiversity movement, blaming NTs for everything wrong with their life and expressing no personal responsibility for anything. Neurodiversity was dead when those radicals took over. I unfollowed most of them and was blocked by many for not toeing the line. I'm done with it.

NTs are equal, no better, no worse. They have faults, we have faults. There are rude, manipulative aspies, there are rude manipulative NTs. There are judgemental NTs, there are judgemental aspies. Etc, etc, etc.


NT's and AS/ASD people are not equal.NT's don't see us as equal at all and I don't see NT's as my equal.We are a far different and superior people. Also how can there be a manipulative Aspie when a vast majority of us have poor social skills?


Poor social skills is one thing, manipulation can be learned, for example I learned that saying I'm thirsty while at first refusing something makes me look more humble because they will offer it instead of me asking for it. This, however simple, is manipulation. I know personally of manipulative aspies that I don't want to be around, I know of mean aspies who don't care for others. We are individuals first, there can be good and bad aspies.

Social communication and facial reading skills allows NTs to feel people out better than us, keeps them out of trouble. That is an advantage, we have the advantage in logic, there are both upsides and downsides to both, henceforth equal.

You're bitter at someone and taking it out on NTs in general, henceforth I refuse further debate here. Just the same, have a good day.


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31 Jul 2018, 7:48 pm

rick42 wrote:
NT's and AS/ASD people are not equal.NT's don't see us as equal at all and I don't see NT's as my equal.We are a far different and superior people. Also how can there be a manipulative Aspie when a vast majority of us have poor social skills?


What about the manipulative Aspies I've seen on this forum?