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01 Aug 2018, 2:02 pm

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... we are a more logical people that don't ridicule other people ... we don't spend time socializing about what makes us superior in many ways.
Like you are doing right now. If you are so 'superior', then why is it that you do not see the very same flaws in yourself that you attribute to only those allegedly 'inferior' NTs? Aspies are not a monolithic people, nor do we all have the exact same traits to the exact same degree as you so erroneously assume. Each of us is different; we are not all like you ... THANK GOD!
Calling people inferior is putting them down and ridiculing them. Different social skills can make one seem falsely inferior in one environment but not in another but it does not make you superior. Having a sensory sensitivity issue that makes sex uncomfortable to impossible, is not an asset but a disability. I can't think of any way executive functioning problems can be anything but a negative no matter how accommodating other people are. You want to argue that many so-called deficits of autism are largely or purely a matter of being a small minority in an NT world I'd be with you on that. But if we were so superior we would have figured we had a thing called autism before a few NT's figured it out in the 1940s, and how to overcome the disadvantages of being small and be rulers the NT world.
Are you talking to me?
I am agreeing with you and disagreeing with the OP.
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01 Aug 2018, 2:09 pm

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I believe we as Aspies are superior becasue of what we go through.We are also more logical.We are not annoying.We don't gossip. We don't ridicule other people or look down on other people.Also,we don't need to have any friendships or romantic relationships unlike the other 99% of the population, whether it's becasue we don't have the desire to or we simply just not bother anymore becasue of being rejected so much.We as AS/ASD people are a far different and superior people.


Funny thing is I've been around in direct contact with far more Aspies than NT's in my life. So my perspective of Aspies isn't as rosy. I've been teased and picked on by plenty. Ostracized by most. In school they did have cliques. There was a pecking order. Many Aspies of WP have been in romantic relationships and are married. Many married with children.

I once pissed off a lot of Aspies on WP by asking them how they could be autistic and yet have such NT-like lifestyles.

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i hate nts


I hate everyone equally.


I didn't write that. The mods deleted a whole post and replaced it with just that. I hate it when mods modify posts they don't like. They should either let the post stand or delete it, but not manipulate what people post.


You know I was thinking that didn't sound like you.



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01 Aug 2018, 3:54 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
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... we are a more logical people that don't ridicule other people ... we don't spend time socializing about what makes us superior in many ways.
Like you are doing right now.

If you are so 'superior', then why is it that you do not see the very same flaws in yourself that you attribute to only those allegedly 'inferior' NTs?

Aspies are not a monolithic people, nor do we all have the exact same traits to the exact same degree as you so erroneously assume. Each of us is different; we are not all like you ... THANK GOD!


Calling people inferior is putting them down and ridiculing them.

Different social skills can make one seem falsely inferior in one environment but not in another but it does not make you superior. Having a sensory sensitivity issue that makes sex uncomfortable to impossible, is not an asset but a disability. I can't think of any way executive functioning problems can be anything but a negative no matter how accommodating other people are.

You want to argue that many so-called deficits of autism are largely or purely a matter of being a small minority in an NT world I'd be with you on that. But if we were so superior we would have figured we had a thing called autism before a few NT's figured it out in the 1940s, and how to overcome the disadvantages of being small and be rulers the NT world.



I'm not saying that Autism/Aspergers doesn't come with it's own problems, because it does.However,a lot of the problems that comes with Autism is becasue we're only 1% of the population, while NT's are 99% of the population and the fact that NT's are mean,judgmental,and overall nasty towards Aspies. That alone cause problems due to us being a extremely small minority.What I'm saying is because of what we go through,we are more honest,we are more intelligent,we don't rely on socializing,we don't gossip,we not needing relationships unlike the rest of the 99% o the population are what makes us superior in many ways.



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01 Aug 2018, 4:27 pm

totally agreed rick its like deaf people who are only disabled because they have to live in a hearing world


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01 Aug 2018, 4:58 pm

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while NT's are 99% of the population

NTS ARE NOT 99% OF THE POPULATION HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU?! ! For f***s sake!

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and the fact that NT's are mean,judgmental,and overall nasty towards Aspies.

So these NTs that have upset you enough to be posting this spiteful thread have suddenly made you believe that all NTs are the same. They are not. And even the ones who do judge, it's not only Aspies they judge. NT people with deformed faces get judged, for example.
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What I'm saying is because of what we go through,we are more honest,we are more intelligent,we don't rely on socializing,we don't gossip,we not needing relationships unlike the rest of the 99% o the population are what makes us superior in many ways.


So what is exactly wrong with socialising anyway? What is wrong with wanting a relationship? What makes a person without relationships so brilliant?

I think you are actually more narrow-minded about Aspies than what NTs are. You just think that we are ALL super-intelligent beings capable of inventing a time machine, with no desire for any human contact. Guess what? We are not what you think.

And if honesty is what you think makes us so superior, I will be honest right now.
I think you are a troll.
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01 Aug 2018, 6:03 pm

rick42 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
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... we are a more logical people that don't ridicule other people ... we don't spend time socializing about what makes us superior in many ways.
Like you are doing right now.

If you are so 'superior', then why is it that you do not see the very same flaws in yourself that you attribute to only those allegedly 'inferior' NTs?

Aspies are not a monolithic people, nor do we all have the exact same traits to the exact same degree as you so erroneously assume. Each of us is different; we are not all like you ... THANK GOD!


Calling people inferior is putting them down and ridiculing them.

Different social skills can make one seem falsely inferior in one environment but not in another but it does not make you superior. Having a sensory sensitivity issue that makes sex uncomfortable to impossible, is not an asset but a disability. I can't think of any way executive functioning problems can be anything but a negative no matter how accommodating other people are.

You want to argue that many so-called deficits of autism are largely or purely a matter of being a small minority in an NT world I'd be with you on that. But if we were so superior we would have figured we had a thing called autism before a few NT's figured it out in the 1940s, and how to overcome the disadvantages of being small and be rulers the NT world.



I'm not saying that Autism/Aspergers doesn't come with it's own problems, because it does.However,a lot of the problems that comes with Autism is becasue we're only 1% of the population, while NT's are 99% of the population and the fact that NT's are mean,judgmental,and overall nasty towards Aspies. That alone cause problems due to us being a extremely small minority.What I'm saying is because of what we go through,we are more honest,we are more intelligent,we don't rely on socializing,we don't gossip,we not needing relationships unlike the rest of the 99% o the population are what makes us superior in many ways.


If you were to track all of your interactions with other people, I think you’ll find that very few of them involve people who are mean, nasty, or judgmental unless you are being rude to them.

Also, you can’t just pull statistics out of your head. They have to be data from research or else your posts won’t be taken seriously.


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01 Aug 2018, 6:07 pm

Hi Ric,

For some reason, I sense that some particular NT really pissed you off, and that's why you're angry at NT's at the moment.

If this happened, maybe you could talk about it here, instead of just ranting. Maybe someone could be of assistance.



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01 Aug 2018, 7:04 pm

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Hi Ric,

For some reason, I sense that some particular NT really pissed you off, and that's why you're angry at NT's at the moment.

If this happened, maybe you could talk about it here, instead of just ranting. Maybe someone could be of assistance.


I will be honest,yes a NT did get me angry.When I went to a Restaurant to eat out,I was minding my business,then ran into a NT(he used be a classmate in college) and asked me"why are you so freaking awkward?"Then he asked if I have any friends or a girlfriend,I said "none of your business",then he assumed I had no friends or girlfriend(which is true),so he decided to say that "you're so lame",and then I decided to just walked away. It's not just this one bad interaction I have with NT's.My brother,who's a year younger than I me and he has ADHD,I used to asked him (before we stopped talking), if he wants to hangout with me,and he always said no and he even mocked me for not being a NT. When I was a child, my parents have always treated my two siblings(one brother,one sister) and my cousins better than me. NT's have always treated me a lot differently and a lot of NT people would even treated me as if I'm stupid. Overall,I had bad interactions with NT people.



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I will be honest, yes an NT did get me angry. When I went to a Restaurant to eat out, I was minding my business, then when I ran into an NT (he used be a classmate in college) and he asked me "why are you so freaking awkward?" Then he asked if I have any friends or a girlfriend. I said "none of your business". Then he assumed I had no friends or girlfriend (which is both of which are true), so he decided to say, that "you're so lame". and Then I decided to just walked away. It's not just this one bad interaction I have had with NT's. My brother who's is a year younger than I, me and he has ADHD. I used to asked him (before we stopped talking), if he wants wanted to hangout hang out with me; and he always said no "No", and he even mocked me for not being an NT. When I was a child, my parents have always treated my two sibling (one brother, one sister) and my cousins better than me I. NT's have always treated me a lot differently, and a lot of NT people would even treated treat me as if I'm I was stupid. Overall, I have had bad interactions with NT people.
Well, if you're so 'superior', then you should be able to figure out ways to beat them at their own games!

You would get grammar, punctuation, spelling, and verb tense correct, as well.


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01 Aug 2018, 7:59 pm

rick42 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
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... we are a more logical people that don't ridicule other people ... we don't spend time socializing about what makes us superior in many ways.
Like you are doing right now.

If you are so 'superior', then why is it that you do not see the very same flaws in yourself that you attribute to only those allegedly 'inferior' NTs?

Aspies are not a monolithic people, nor do we all have the exact same traits to the exact same degree as you so erroneously assume. Each of us is different; we are not all like you ... THANK GOD!


Calling people inferior is putting them down and ridiculing them.

Different social skills can make one seem falsely inferior in one environment but not in another but it does not make you superior. Having a sensory sensitivity issue that makes sex uncomfortable to impossible, is not an asset but a disability. I can't think of any way executive functioning problems can be anything but a negative no matter how accommodating other people are.

You want to argue that many so-called deficits of autism are largely or purely a matter of being a small minority in an NT world I'd be with you on that. But if we were so superior we would have figured we had a thing called autism before a few NT's figured it out in the 1940s, and how to overcome the disadvantages of being small and be rulers the NT world.



I'm not saying that Autism/Aspergers doesn't come with it's own problems, because it does.However,a lot of the problems that comes with Autism is becasue we're only 1% of the population, while NT's are 99% of the population and the fact that NT's are mean,judgmental,and overall nasty towards Aspies. That alone cause problem due to us being a extremely small minority

I agree that being a small minority causes a lot of unfair and significant disadvantages.

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What I'm saying is because of what we go through,we are more honest,we are more intelligent,we don't rely on socializing,we don't gossip,we not needing relationships unlike the rest of the 99% o the population are what makes us superior in many ways.


These significant disadvantages cause varied reactions based on personality. These do not make us more intelligent, they can most certainly cause our intelligence to be underutilized. Not relying on socialization or needing relationships are schizoid traits, not autism ones. Introversion is not autism trait. I have been to Aspergers groups and have been on this forum regularly and can tell you that there are many Aspies the need socialization/relationships and are depressed as hell because it is so difficult to impossible for them.


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01 Aug 2018, 9:36 pm

This is usually a microcosm thing.

Where all NT's are based on a few people the aspie has had difficulties with.

And all aspies are based on themselves because they've never actually been around any other aspies.



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01 Aug 2018, 9:55 pm

I don't disagree with OP. Most NTs are really terrible people. To think we could not survive in a world without them is simply false. This world is built for NTs by NTs, thus, they find their way easier. If Aspies built a world for Aspies, it would be much different. Also, I don't believe that in a society with mostly Aspies that we would not mate with each other and die out. I find that I am attracted to others who seem more like me and I am more motivated to get to know them and maintain relationships with them.



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01 Aug 2018, 10:20 pm

An Aspie is an NT with neurological problems.



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01 Aug 2018, 11:56 pm

EzraS wrote:
An Aspie is an NT with neurological problems.

An aspie is not NT but autistic despite the recent mini-trend of people on WP claiming otherwise.


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ASPartOfMe wrote:
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An Aspie is an NT with neurological problems.

An aspie is not NT but autistic despite the recent mini-trend of people on WP claiming otherwise.


Okay then, I'm an NT with neurological problems. What I'm saying is we're all just people. I'm the same as anyone else. I just have some neurological issues. But I'm just as human as everyone else.