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01 May 2025, 6:34 pm

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Rapidly getting much physically weaker and weaker and only 42

Yesterday saw an old man and old woman lift a litterbox. They were about my height and weight

Today, lumber associate Lili lifted a pallet, while I was looking for the pallet jack. She's only about 4'9 and I tried and failed to lift the pallet but it was too heavy

Suspect osteoporosis or arthritis or something like that

Entire worthless corpse going limp


Never had much strength to begin with and I'm losing it too.

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i feel the same way.

when i was 19 and 20, i set schoolwide powerlifting records for 123# females at bench and deadlift (and total). 24-26 and 36 to 42 now, testosterone to transition to male. used to lift weights 15-25 or so and then stopped. when coworkers and customers assume i am cisgender male, they have the nerve to demand that i lift things that are way too heavy, such as tools, and then when i (unintentionally) drop them, they act like i did it on purpose. last week, one customer had the nerve to ask "why?" when i dropped the pallet, as though he thought i did it on purpose. some customers (and associates) make me wanna puke, cry, scream,



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01 May 2025, 7:29 pm

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Well it's good that at least one doctor (your sister, who presumably cares about you more than the health service does) says there doesn't seem to be anything wrong enough to need medical intervention. Though it would be nice to get a second opinion.

If/when the doctor refuses to sign the work accommodations form that allows me to lift only fifty pounds, or if/when Home Depot has the nerve to make my worthless corpse redundant, or if/when i get hit by a car, or if/when i become eligible for government benefits, or something like that happens, then i will get a second opinion. however, i am afraid that if i tell my current physician how i have to struggle to stay awake, every waking second, and how it takes a lot of energy for me to even sit down instead of lying down, or how every slightest movement takes a lot of effort, then maybe the physician will refuse to sign the form. then home depot will have the nerve to make my worthless corpse redundant.

Not that I practice what I "preach," but that doesn't necessarily make it bad advice. I'm not used to the way the US charges for medical services, and the UK doctors I've seen in the past x years haven't inspired my confidence. So my circumstances are probably different to yours.

yes, your circumstances are different from mine, in that i have never gone to the UK.

Wasn't it you who successfully completed a half-marathon run recently?

november 2024, half marathon. "successfully completed." not an impressive time, 2:40. but whatever.

Just wondering, how are the results of these physical fitness exercises measured? Or is it just subjectively so obvious that it's not worth measuring?


what "physical exercises"? i didn't mention anything about "physical exercises".

Other people here seem to have been advising you to do weight training and such, and some of their descriptions made me wonder how they measure the improvements. Plus it seems you did the half marathon, and apart from the physical exercise benefits I can't imagine why anybody would want to do that. But that was a while ago so I guess you don't exercise any more except when life forces you to. I can understand that. When I go for my boring daily half-mile walk, my body often tries quite hard to stop me, and sometimes it gets its way. I've not lapsed in the past few days but the old bod still tempts me to. Especially when I'm just walking round and round the car park. It's better when I walk to Walmart and back because at least I get some food out of it.

Considering the physical weakness you've mentioned, it's a pity if there's a risk your doc will make your life difficult for explaining your symptoms. I'm familiar with the general problem, having to be careful what I say to healthcare providers, therapists, police, and officials in general, in case they make things even worse. They love to be trusted but they don't always deserve it.



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02 May 2025, 9:47 pm

On the other hand maybe you should be comparing myself to women not men



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02 May 2025, 10:15 pm

Why?



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02 May 2025, 10:23 pm

Tough diamond

Born female. 24-26 and 36 to 42 testosterone

Never been on full dose

Full dose is 200mg per two weeks

Started 50mg per two weeks

Then it was 100mg two weeks prescribed

Since December 2021 it has been 150 mg per two weeks but I only take it once every four weeks



But I look and sound even more feminine than I did before testosterone

That's why

So what, I want to be a man. That doesn't make me a man

I also wanna be skinny smart handsome cisgender neurotypicals white civil engineer and it is not happening. But "life" goes on and on and on


Sometimes I feel like I am on a waterslide out of control and falling into a puddle of feces



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02 May 2025, 10:35 pm

OK that makes more sense.



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03 May 2025, 11:18 am

On the other hand plenty of factors determine physical strength

Nature vs nurture

Nature: sex, race

Nurture: training, nutrition

Mix of both: health

Some customers and servants think I am cisgender male, so they demand that I lift things that are too heavy. For example, doors, tools,

Some customers think I am cisgender female and they have the nerve to bark at me "get me a man!"

(Rolls eyes)

Customers make me wanna puke

Servants are not that great either



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03 May 2025, 8:14 pm

It might be worth seeing a doc to check your bone health and get some blood tests. In the meantime, maybe try some gentle stretches or short walks to keep your muscles active, and make sure you’re getting enough protein and calcium.



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03 May 2025, 9:46 pm

Sometimes I am so weak I find it hard to sit down. I have to be lying down

Sometimes I struggle to stay awake on my way to work

Every slightest movement takes a lot of energy

Surreal



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04 May 2025, 11:15 am

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no gym membership. $$$$



I hate when people use "can't afford a gym" as an excuse not to exercise. First off, you have 24-hour, free access to the world's largest gym: the outdoors! Second, I found this article about getting started with strength training for very cheap. It specifically targets autistic people who "can't afford" a gym.

https://scarysymptoms.com/2023/05/how-a ... -exercise/



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04 May 2025, 11:32 am

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no gym membership. $$$$



I hate when people use "can't afford a gym" as an excuse not to exercise. First off, you have 24-hour, free access to the world's largest gym: the outdoors! Second, I found this article about getting started with strength training for very cheap. It specifically targets autistic people who "can't afford" a gym.

https://scarysymptoms.com/2023/05/how-a ... -exercise/

The article has some useful tips in it, but its "bluntness" comes over as plain cocky and offensive, and I think it's likely to put a lot of people off.



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04 May 2025, 11:34 am

Elgee wrote:
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no gym membership. $$$$



I hate when people use "can't afford a gym" as an excuse not to exercise. First off, you have 24-hour, free access to the world's largest gym: the outdoors! Second, I found this article about getting started with strength training for very cheap. It specifically targets autistic people who "can't afford" a gym.

https://scarysymptoms.com/2023/05/how-a ... -exercise/

I think people overestimate how much they really need in terms of exercise. I was briefly unhired from a gym years back and I was pretty disgusted by the industry insiders, even though the gym that had hired me was probably one of the more reasonable ones.

There was a bit of a saying that if you go to a gym and aren't using a personal trainer or taking classes, you're pretty much just renting equipment. At that point, the only real reason to have a membership is to have spotters available and have a bit of motivation in terms of you're paying to access this gear.

All you really need typically is a chin up bar. A jump rope or exercise bike can also be really useful and they aren't necessarily that expensive either. There's a bunch of places to go to get work out routines that can be done for cheap or free. So, really, unless somebody has a disability impacting movement or who is working so many hours that there's literally not a couple hours a week in total to work out, it's usually more of an excuse than anything else as to why not to exercise. IIRC, Matthew McConaughey used to just do one sport a day as his exercise. Granted you and I probably don't have that much time, but even a couple hours a week makes a difference.



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04 May 2025, 11:40 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
Elgee wrote:
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no gym membership. $$$$



I hate when people use "can't afford a gym" as an excuse not to exercise. First off, you have 24-hour, free access to the world's largest gym: the outdoors! Second, I found this article about getting started with strength training for very cheap. It specifically targets autistic people who "can't afford" a gym.

https://scarysymptoms.com/2023/05/how-a ... -exercise/

The article has some useful tips in it, but its "bluntness" comes over as plain cocky and offensive, and I think it's likely to put a lot of people off.


I used to be fairly judgmental about things like exercising, I was usually sensible enough to not say anything. But, especially for people that are overweight or wanting to get into shape, it's generally more important to do something that addresses the areas of weakness, even if it's not ideal. As long as it's safe, that ought to be enough.



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04 May 2025, 12:20 pm

Humans, eh? Victims of our own success. We used to have to exercise to get food. Now we don't have to, so we don't bother. Short-term result, comfort. Long-term result doesn't bear thinking about.

I had access to an exercise bike once, and I used to pedal very fast for about 5 minutes. Couldn't bear the thought of moderate pedalling for half an hour. The trouble with exercise is that it's boring. You can go to the gym and extend your life by a year, but when you do the sums you'll see that you spent that year in the gym. Actually I've no idea what the numbers are, so I could be using exaggeration to achieve emphasis there.



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04 May 2025, 1:11 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
Humans, eh? Victims of our own success. We used to have to exercise to get food. Now we don't have to, so we don't bother. Short-term result, comfort. Long-term result doesn't bear thinking about.

I had access to an exercise bike once, and I used to pedal very fast for about 5 minutes. Couldn't bear the thought of moderate pedalling for half an hour. The trouble with exercise is that it's boring. You can go to the gym and extend your life by a year, but when you do the sums you'll see that you spent that year in the gym. Actually I've no idea what the numbers are, so I could be using exaggeration to achieve emphasis there.


It's not just about extending lifespan. I can die tomorrow from getting hit by a truck. But each day I'm alive, I'm STRONG and HEALTHY and don't need a man to help do things for me. I like that when I move, I don't need a second person to help me carry heavy things into my car and then unload my car. Moving companies always have a short job with me because the only things I leave behind for them to move are too big to fit into my car. I carry around big lamps, small tables. heavy potted plants, heavy crates, etc., all on my own. And I'm a woman!

Due to years of hard-ass working out, I don't need medications, assistance, help, can get around all day without fatigue or feeling exhausted, and am pretty confident I can effectively defend myself should some young punk try to mug me. I'm 62 and can out-strength any woman half my age, can still run up a flight of stairs, can run down, too (no knee pain), have NO back issues, can jump and leap over puddles -- I move like a kid!

To say that this is all due to great GENES would be quite arrogant.



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04 May 2025, 1:35 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
Elgee wrote:
shortfatbalduglyman wrote:

no gym membership. $$$$



I hate when people use "can't afford a gym" as an excuse not to exercise. First off, you have 24-hour, free access to the world's largest gym: the outdoors! Second, I found this article about getting started with strength training for very cheap. It specifically targets autistic people who "can't afford" a gym.

https://scarysymptoms.com/2023/05/how-a ... -exercise/

The article has some useful tips in it, but its "bluntness" comes over as plain cocky and offensive, and I think it's likely to put a lot of people off.

I think the article could be very useful. Bluntness? Maybe, but to stay healthy as an autistic you have to endure some discomfort and put in some hard work.


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