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Oh no! You guys found out that i'm an imposter! Just kidding. If anyone needs proof i'll take a picture of the hundreds and hundreds of car magazines I have.

I think some people fake having Asperger's as an excuse for their behavior, or because they want to feel special because of labeling themselves as something that's different from the norm. That's not to put down people who honestly believe they have Asperger's but don't have an official diagnosis - that's different.

Not all aspie or expected to be so, so do not mention the club secrets.

Parents, they do not just stay in the parents forum, they want to meet the people their children are growing to be like. NT, and say strange things, as NTs do, but real in their own way, and concerned, and meaning no harm.

ADD, ADHD, are mentioned as welcome, and related, as many an aspie has been miss Dxed over the years, and no one is sure. Poopy can march in my parade. That one I think we can convert.

She is right about other sites being rude, ugly, common, drug centered, and not at all like classy aspies.

College students taking Psycology do come here, and test us with sharp sticks. They are working on becoming Professionals, who can destroy peoples lives with Professional detachment. They treat us like rats, and are so superior.

Some think Jesus is the cure for everything, and give us a try. They do not last, they babble people to death, we do it better.

We do have some seeking refuge from the funny farm, and they were not locked up for being aspie, but they have found their way here, and an acceptance they never found before. Most are very well behaved.

We make sense to the legally mad, and they like us. I have seen a few who belonged at the funny farm come through, and everybody knew it. People who I thought only spoke of cats gave some very good advice, turn yourself in and get treatment.

We get a few spoilers, I think from CAN and Autism Speaks, shills in the crowd, who speak of the unrelenting horror of suffering from Aspurgers. Their life is a day after day unending agony, they wish they could die, and would be better off if they had never been born. If only prenatel testing had lead to them being aborted. That will later be quoted on another web site, as an example of how we all feel.

The Official DX is like George Bush reading the Constitution he swore to uphold and defend, but he never swore he understood what all the big words meant.

The most classic aspie sent for ten Dxs might get 60%, and the most main stream NT control group 30%. What ever happen to Nerouis? SP? It was the pop thing a while back, went out with Disco. Psychology is not a Science, no five year period agrees wih any other. Siggy said, Yo Mamma!, Jung, There is no money in sanity.

The Internet brings in people who never left home, no one ever knew they existed, and they can do their own homework. We have some very learned hermits. Of the 2,000,000 in the US, less than 10,000 here.

It is the largest sample, but small to make anything of it, and mixed with others.

It is a community, predominately AS, a first, still finding it's way.

On the good side it is a threat to CAN and Autisum Speaks, growing much faster than they are.

it is a threat to the whole alleged Mental Health Profession, give them all Haldol, and if they complain, Thorazine, in large doses. There is an anti drug lobby here. Drugs are a poison that makes anything worse.

No one has ever called them on their behavior before. They did not exist before 1970, when drug companies were looking for new markets and test subjects. It is all an experiment in mind control, as would be used in warfare. The CIA did dose the unsuspecting with LSD, and used it to discredit political enemies.

Putting us in their black book in 1994 was an error of judgement. Alex putting us together a stroke of brilliance.

With us, it's not just a job, it's an adventure.

First... Inventor... I love your text formating. It pleases me. Thank you.

Second... I don't hide that I'm undiagnosed. Primarily because I was already in my last 20's early 30s before AS became a diagnosis and I never fit the low functioning autistics. Add on that for some reason I'm afraid of docs, psych ones in particular means I probably never will be officially. But, even before registering here, I was reading and watching for almost a year before joining in. (yes, you folks scared me what can I say. )

When I read about AS, years ago now, it was like a giant light bulb went off. It described much of my life. It meant that I wasn't completely unique and that there were others with the same problems. Odd because many people struggle their whole life to find that unique quality; until I found AS, I was searching to make sure I wasn't. Nothing in the world scarier than thinking you're completely and utterly alone.

And some of the fakers could be garden-variety smart alecks.

Inventor has a great point. Has anyone given out the secret handshake? Even by accident? If you did, we need to change it, pronto. We've had to change the decoder ring three times already this month. Sheez!

Who cares if other people on the forum doubt your Aspienosity? If you feel comfortable here, you fit in. Be yourself. Lots of people here are self-diagnosed. We're one of the few groups who can do that. Ain't it great?

Droopy,

Anyone that thinks we are doing really obsessive stims, etc..., while we type, can't be very smart. MANY here, including professionally diagnosed, speak of how they questioned things, etc... It obviously isn't too obvious to an outsider. BTW I generally mention about how I am not professionally diagnosed. I'm not trying to hide that. This system just kept changing to professionally diagnosed, and I don't bother to change it anymore.

Idahorose,

It IS a nice excuse for how I am not interested in sports, stay like a hermit, etc... Still, that alone wouldn't make me think that I had the syndrome.

I agree with Inventor and his eloquent response. May I say Inventor that I always look forward to your posts. The insight is astonishing and much more eloquent than I could ever come up with.

May I say as a self dxed AS kid and owning a professionally dxed AS kid....I feel a sense of belonging here. My weirdity is all on a sudden not such a weirdity because I can almost always find at least one other person that lives the same life, so to speak. I have built a kinship with several other people on here. I appreciate that in a world where it is way too difficult to navigate the habits of other wayward souls wandering this planet.

How long have I been a weird kid? All my life. I grew up in a land where being different was certainly not prized. I often was told to get in the box and fit in it. I was miserable all of my life. Diagnosed with severe depression and always feeling like a stranger in my own skin that was wearing the wrong clothes.

Then my son was born. Affirmation that I was not so weird. There was someone else in this world that was like me only to a nth degree more. Some day during those first few weeks of wandering halfway between the land of life and death with him, I made a promise to myself. My child, if he turned out weird, would never suffer with the horrible affliction of thinking that there was something wrong with being different. I swore that I would raise him in a world where he was accommodated no matter what. He became a teenager that knew he marched to a different drummer and knew that it was okay to do so. I am proud of that accomplishment. Weird is not a dirty word in our house. It's a state of being.

Perhaps I'm looking at this all wrong, but I don't worry about the people who are purists and want to have only officially dxed AS kids on here. I figure it this way...I was looking for a place to belong when I found this one. Another rejection because of what I am....hmmmm...not so hard to live with it. Been doing that for 38 years! I would however be extremely disappointed. Everyone should have a place to belong.

I think most of us can relate to the feeling of not belonging on this planet or for some of us, even worse, our own families. In my own life, it was through my son's diagnosis that my family began to accept my own idiosyncracies. However, if we're being technical, my son belongs in two groups of diagnosis. Self dxed (at age 13) and officially dxed (at age 15). I will probably forever remain not officially dxed. I'll probably even survive....

I must stress once again how autism is a syndrome/disability/state of being that is in itself classified as not fitting into any other category because of the presence of several tics from other disabilities/syndromes/states of being. I always think of the spectrum as a continuum starting at mild ADD and ending at the most severe low functioning autism. In between lies ADD, Asperger's, Tourette's, OCD, bipolar, etc. All of these attention disorders make up the parts of us that add up to being AS or on the spectrum.

All this talk of self diagnosis and fake aspies makes me wonder about myself. Once I got some kind of dignosis, I was almost actively against the idea - especially when the subject of help and stuff came up as I generally don't find schoolwork any more difficult than anyone else (I presume. Large projects I tend to avoid as starting them is annoying with the soup of random thought in my head).

It's odd that I'm so against the idea - I was looking up ASDs over the internet a couple of years back due to myself identifying with many of the traits of some...

First I was just wierd, always had been, very used to it, one of a kind.

Then I discover AS, on AOL, news, Ten Medical Conditions That Give Super Powers.

There was a mention of WP, it sounded familer.

After several hours I pulled out, within another hour I was a member.

First post, At First I Thought It Was a Joke.

Then I became a beliver, down to my slip on shoes.

Following discovery, several months later I started to doubt it existed.

Everyone here seemed so normal.

Then I doubted I did have it, stims? walking on balls of feet, people with emotions?

My shoes wear out at the toes, where I carry the weight, I have been told I do not move, I lunge.

When I go for a walk I have been saluted, for I quick march. Best day, 45 miles.

Then there is the staying home, the Internet business, always a capital I in Internet.

Eating the same thing in the same place. I like Sesame Chicken and combination fried rice.

Geology, IT, Machines, writing, now publishing, collections, 10,000 books.

So I am back to pleading guilty.

Did I mention my Wrong Planet addiction.

Our potential for greatness lies in welcoming all to our world, as we were excluded from the other.

At 2,000,000 we are the largest group of neuro diverse.

We are better for our experence, we know lost souls.



" I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night, alive as you or I,

Joe said I, you'ar long years dead, Oh no, said Joe not I,

Oh no, said Joe not I.

The copper bosses killed you Joe, they shot you dead said I,

No said Joe, I didn't die, I went on to Organize, went on to Organize.

Where Aspie folks fight for their rights, and reject the curebi pill,

where all come together in love and peace, it's there you'll find Joe Hill,

It's there you'll find Joe Hill.


My thanks to Buffy St. Marie. the IWW, and all who have gone before with a pure heart.

Tonight is the door between the living and the dead. The new year starts, we wish sweet rest to those who have gone, honor their lives, the only way we can, by serving the living.

I was first here in 2005. It has changed, but I can't really define how.

I find it funny that people will accuse people of being "fake Aspies", but when you ask them to name names, they won't do that.

Great thread so far. Plenty of great arguments from both end.