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29 Jul 2012, 2:58 am

I am pretty sure this is an Aspergian phenomenon (although I know it happens to NTs on occasion too), but I very often have a sensation that I can best descibe as being the opposite of déjà vu. In other words, I do something or something happens to me that is pretty roution and happens frequently, but it feels like the first time. It's a strange, uncomfortable feeling like the event hasn't actaully happened a hundred times already and I don't know what to expect next.

For example. I kiss my boyfriend in the morning, or I arrive at the front door of my workplace, and it seems unusual or foreign, like I'm not sure why I'm doing it and have anxiety about what is going to happen next. I suppose it may be a form of derealization, but I think it may be strongly associated with ASDs because it is usually triggered by something being slightly different about the routine event, e.g. when kissing ny boyfriend, he touches me on my shoulder first, or when coming into work, a car plls up next to me. Since I'm a lot more comfortable with things being exactly the same every day, the minor difference might be causing the feeling of disconnect.

Does this happen frequently to anyone else?


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29 Jul 2012, 3:00 am

Jamais Vu.

I've never experienced it. Not that I know of at least. I've been wondering what it feels like though.



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29 Jul 2012, 3:28 am

Yeah, that's jamais vu. I experience it fairly often. I've never had deja vu.


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29 Jul 2012, 3:29 am

Wow... Never knew there was even a name for it! Thanks!

Edit: BTW... Super creepy... I was just now surfing through TV channels and there is a movie playing on YouToo in which a character is explaining to another character the difference between déjà vu, déjà vecu, and jamais vu.


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29 Jul 2012, 3:44 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Yeah, that's jamais vu. I experience it fairly often. I've never had deja vu.


I experience Déjà Vu sometimes. It's a very peculiar thing.



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29 Jul 2012, 4:27 am

I didn't even know there was a name for this xD I'm not sure if I experience it or not. I think I do. I'll get back to you.



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29 Jul 2012, 4:47 am

I do jamais vu and déjà vu, but I didn´t know that there was a name for the first one.

Both are prette rare for me but it happens a few times a year, jamais vu is a bit more frequent.

I think it often happens in familiar situations that I haven't done for a while. It does not help that I am bad at remembering faces and very bad at finding my way around (I have dyscalculia). It will often take me a while to recognise people and I am eternally lost when leaving my front door (Well, I know where I am, but the rest of the world seems to move around randomly).

Thanks for bringing it to my attention
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29 Jul 2012, 4:52 am

Not sure if it's the same thing, but I get a weird feeling if I do something different from how I normally do it. For instance, last night I swapped to the opposite side of the dining table to eat, and I felt freaked out and weird for the whole meal. Really unpleasant feeling it was. I get this feeling if I have to walk a new route etc. too.


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29 Jul 2012, 6:06 am

I've experienced jamais vu. I think sometimes it's due to things being rearranged and I don't recognize the environment, but I'm not positive.



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29 Jul 2012, 6:58 am

I experience both. The Jamais vu on days I have seizures. Of course it's probably not the only cause of them.


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29 Jul 2012, 7:03 am

I've also experienced both. I can't say that I enjoy EITHER of them.



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29 Jul 2012, 7:11 am

whirlingmind wrote:
Not sure if it's the same thing, but I get a weird feeling if I do something different from how I normally do it. For instance, last night I swapped to the opposite side of the dining table to eat, and I felt freaked out and weird for the whole meal. Really unpleasant feeling it was. I get this feeling if I have to walk a new route etc. too.

Sounds like regular ASD discomfort from change. I feel that way when I choose to eat out of a new bowl, or cereal instead of oats, or not the same outfit I usually wear everyday. And many other things I usually do the same way.


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29 Jul 2012, 7:52 am

In some regards I experience this same phenomenon, though it doesn't involve my routine. For me, it's rather enjoyable because the areas it does involve makes it seem as if I'm experiencing something for the first time each time I do that something. It's much better than becoming "jaded."



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29 Jul 2012, 8:00 am

It happens every now and then.

For example I like to drive to places routinely(on Monday-Friday I go to university in time for my first class and if I dont have first period I just study/grab a book/whatever because otherwise I start panicking about arriving late too classes and theres too much pressure...)
Whenever Im unable to do this routine drives it feels completely different and I have to be extremely careful about possibly getting lost and whatnot even though I know the way there by heart.



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29 Jul 2012, 10:52 am

dyingofpoetry wrote:
I am pretty sure this is an Aspergian phenomenon (although I know it happens to NTs on occasion too), but I very often have a sensation that I can best descibe as being the opposite of déjà vu. In other words, I do something or something happens to me that is pretty roution and happens frequently, but it feels like the first time. It's a strange, uncomfortable feeling like the event hasn't actaully happened a hundred times already and I don't know what to expect next.

For example. I kiss my boyfriend in the morning, or I arrive at the front door of my workplace, and it seems unusual or foreign, like I'm not sure why I'm doing it and have anxiety about what is going to happen next. I suppose it may be a form of derealization, but I think it may be strongly associated with ASDs because it is usually triggered by something being slightly different about the routine event, e.g. when kissing ny boyfriend, he touches me on my shoulder first, or when coming into work, a car plls up next to me. Since I'm a lot more comfortable with things being exactly the same every day, the minor difference might be causing the feeling of disconnect.

Does this happen frequently to anyone else?


Yes.

At times I'll feel profoundly displaced. This is something I thought of opening a thread with, and it has to do our general experiences, ones that are generically routine. For a social example: we know we learn or pick up things from our environment, even subconsciously, but when there is a change in a place such as a location, I seem to lose my personal developed style of relating to people. In other words the same people but now taking place in a different setting e.g., ' new place.' I will completely lose the "developed way" of interacting with familiar people.

This is one of my "avoidant" pet peeves.

A hypothetical thought experiment: I know folks and we joke around and we feel a mutual comfort with one another, even being together for years. But the kicker is: Now imagine "us" meeting up in a different State ( A location in US). Now, I cannot interact with these familiar people without making mental mistakes, as it seems I lost my "theory of mind" with them.

One of the reasons some folks thought or 'think' I'm bipolar is the fact that this "thing" is inconsistent in its expression. I can interface these different settings, successfully, and other times I'll do the above.

(Why the inconsistancy?)



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29 Jul 2012, 2:27 pm

I dont know if I've ever expierianced that but I have had deja vu before. i didnt like it, I could care less about whatever freaky games my mind likes to play on me