Aspies are normal too!

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I like this! Yes, that is how complicated people are---and ourselves fully included!

I think I know what you're talking about. I'm not very good with words, I tend to only understand more simple words. That's why I haven't been explaining myself clearly here in this topic, like you all have.

Anyway, my point is it's easy to argue over the word ''normal'', because it's one of those words what people use in every day conversations without really thinking of breaking it down to it's actual meaning. And because a lot of Aspies think logically, you probably have been breaking the word ''normal'' down to it's original meaning without thinking, ''I suppose we are more or less normal compared to some people, like severely Autistics, who are completely different and can't take part in society properly.'' So it's me who had got this topic a tad wrong because I didn't use the word ''normal'' logically.
For example, most NTs just call people ''abnormal'' when they've just done something wrong, instead of saying, ''what they've just done isn't right.'' For example, a couple of weeks ago I was in the back of my dad's car and my mum and dad were in the front, and a car behind wanted to overtake, but couldn't because there was too much traffic coming the other way. So in the end it drove up on the pavement (which is SO dangerious and strictly against the highway code), and then pulled in a gap again. My mum was shocked and said, ''that driver ain't normal!'' But she didn't mean the actual person ain't normal (well....the person must have been pretty stupid to think that driving on the pavement in a town is a ''good idea''), she just meant that the driver has just done something that is extremely wrong.

But, like I said before, just because someone has all the social cues, doesn't mean they're normal in other ways. Lacking social skills doesn't make you any less normal than someone who is lacking intelligence skills. My social skills might not be normal but that doesn't mean I'm not normal in other developments, like physical and intellectual, whereas someone might spend their whole life in a wheelchair and can't read, write, count or draw, but can communicate better than Aspies can.

So don't describe ''a normal person'' as ''someone with normal social skills''. Perhaps we could describe ''a normal person'' as ''an alive person'', and call dead people ''abnormal people'' simply because they haven't got thoughts and emotions. Now I can say that a normal person is ''a person who has rights''.

I don't know.

Someone once posted a thread at babycenter in a group and it was called "How normal are you?" and people were posting things about themselves that were abnormal. And few of them sounded like aspies too but it could be traits they have or something else.

If you think about it, every person in the world has got a least one Aspie trait/symptom. MY NT cousin takes things literally, my NT brother has tics, my NT nan has always found mixing hard, my NT colleague has a strong obsession with electronics, my NT neighbour sometimes can't always be bothered to do small talk with people, my NT neice never expresses her emotions to anyone hardly, my other NT cousin used to stack things as a toddler, my NT uncle has poor eye-contact. my NT friend gets anxious a lot......
Aspies just have more of these symptoms which can roll into one and become a diagnostic condition (is ''diagnostic'' a word BTW???)


Do you get what I mean?

Last edited by Joe90 on 18 Oct 2010, 10:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

Yes. I know you need to have so much for the diagnoses and you have to have them often enough they impair you. But I always wonder about people who are impaired by their symptoms but they don't have enough for a diagnoses and what about people who didn't have enough to be on the spectrum but yet are still impaired by their traits?

And there are some people out there who seem to have all the traits but the only thing they are lacking is lack of social skills so therefore it doesn't place them on the spectrum. I have an aspie friend who has a dad like that.

To be on the spectrum, you need to have certain impairments. If you are lacking one of them, you aren't on it.

It is indeed a word.

Yer I know. That's what I was saying. All NTs have a least one or two traits of AS, but that doesn't mean they're on it. I lack confidence, some social skills, normal hearing, coping skills, motor skills, and some (or most) intellectual skills and they are traits what have leaded me to a diagnosis on the spectrum.

Is a lack of confidence necessary to be on the spectrum? I doubt it, but is it?

No.

wow 9 pages of replys,

normal = mundain, no thank you very much. i don't get treat as normal, so i'm not normal, NTs are normal, and i think they are a very strange bunch.

Joe, if your treated as normal, then theres a few reasons for that, but most importantly who cares, if your ok then thats all that matters.

I'll tell you one abnormal thing about myself. When I'm in a room and people are watching something good on the telly, the message, ''they're listening to something on the telly so I must be quiet,'' doesn't automatically enter my head. Usually it does for most NTs, and if they do talk they will be told to be quiet and they will obey. But me, I continuously yak on and they tell me to shuttup, which makes me angry because every time it's my turn to talk it's always at the wrong time, and so I start talking again, until I get told to shuttup again. So I shut my stupid mouth for a few minutes then forget that they wanted me quiet and I start talking again about some other crap, and by then they are getting pissed off and turn up the volume. They know I hate loud tellies rorting out, so I storm out of the room. THAT IS NOT NORMAL!! ! In fact, that is invalid behaviour.

But other things I do are normal, and people sometimes count on that about me and know that I can be like everyone else. But in certain areas I just can't be like everyone else.

I can't always be bothered to act normal.

To most of you, all peadophiles, murderers, rapists, druggies, animal abusers and e.c.t. are normal, just because they're not on the spectrum.
I believe that they're doing more weird and twisted stuff than we're doing with my lives, and I believe that not many descent people really like them, and I believe that something is wrong in their brain, and I believe they need far more help than we do. I also believe that they're are abnormal and antisocial.

They may be NTs (well, I think) but they're definately not normal.

No. That's NOT what we've been saying. This entire time, we've been TRYING to explain that "abnormal" encompasses a large number of people and describes EVERY variation from typical, regardless of whether that variation is good, bad or neutral.

Unfortunately, you not understanding after nine pages is quite normal.

Well that's OK then.

LOL!

I don't quite understand this sentence though.