What if we're just ret*d?

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Oh i don't seem to have that problem, i usually think that so called normal people are more socially ret*d then me :o Especially since with my hearing i can hear most conversations, and i'm a lot more capable of having a proper conversation then most people i hear talking, maybe its arrogant of me but oh well, and people who make you feel like you're a mistake should simply jump of a roof, i mean why would you be a mistake when every person is unique, besides those that copy others in their behaviour but even those are still unique somehow

So what i'm trying to say is, as hard as it may be, don't get all down on yourself, it doesn't help anyone feel better especially not you, we all have the same right to live even when we have problems others don't have, i've been down on myself too, but its not all bad, i mean i myself have pdd-nos, adhd, ocd, and ptsd or whatever its spelled like, and i also have scoliosis and shoulder injuries, so i can't work and neither can i attend school, i'll probably never be able to do any of those, but you're alive so you might as well make the best out of it, and don't tell me that its easy for me to say, because its not :o

And to be honest, its alright to feel down or get sad, but i think talking yourself down like that is for weaklings, and you don't need to be weak or give up :o There that's the end of my speech, feel free to get angry at me or anything, i'm not going to say that i don't care else i wouldn't be posting here in this thread, because i do care, since its good to care about each other ^^

@The Perfect Storm

I agree with some of your criticisms, honestly that whole paragraph was mostly a flurry of ideas I wanted to throw out (a little over passionate at times actually). Obviously not all of it was explored (hence the vagueness of it all) but there are a few more things I'd like to add to this discussion. The reason I bring up the concepts of virtue, community, etc, is because I feel that when talking about their issues in life autistic people tend to cite their difficulties in relating to others and finding a way to coexist with a society built for NT's. I was trying to address this larger theme of lacking social networks by describing ways in which autistic people do involve themselves in their communities, ways we can feel pride in. This is working under the assumption that not enjoying life because of autism is due to a feeling of being place-less and worthlessness as a human. So my suggestion was simply that people shouldn't be so quick to assume a given role of being 'autistic' or 'ret*d' as it limits what we view as possible.

Let's be honest for a second here (which I suppose we're already doing, right). Autistic people are limited, and in many regards. In fact there are many paths that we may desire to take that we are almost certainly incapable of doing so. My posts are not attempting to delineate specific conditions for achieving happiness or living a life that one may feel to be worth living, just throwing out ideas and being optimistic. Is my optimism blind? Yes, it is, it really is. Why don't we be even more honest. I'm sure you're getting ready to dissect each and every piece of text I've written. In fact you probably saw this wall of words and just flat out opened it in a reply just to save time between the initial reading and the critique. Am I saying that what I've written is perfect, or even worth the 2 or so minutes it took to read? Well, let's put it this way. What have you contributed to this discussion? Yes, I know, you dismantle the false beliefs of tools who are too ignorant to conceive of the greater picture, that we are ultimately destined to misery. But I think there is more to this. Why are you sad, Storm? Mom died? Friends abandoned you? sh***y job with a c**t for a boss? What I'm saying is that your pandering to our negative sides is not just pointless in terms of adding any new information to our understanding of autism, it has a detrimental effect on our overall well being, even yours. And for what, to prove a point that we already understand all too well? We are autistic. You think this is the Socratic method, but you never asked for anyone's opinion, or even gave a suggestion as to what we can do beyond feel depressed and consider suicide occasionally. See this? I can be negative too, in fact I can hurt people's feelings from the comfort of my own home. If anything all you've proven is that it's easy to insult people and their ideas, but why not instead come up with ideas that help not just us, but yourself as well? Consider your stance, and explain to me why you feel that it's more logical than mine.

I've learned to acknowledge that I've been autistic for quite some time now even with all that goes with it including difficulties be it socially,occupational,mental,etc.. There is no such thing as a perfect life in fact, the word perfection I feel equates to the world of nature where there is no faults,flaws,etc.. I don't mean to say I'm flawed but, merely stating that those whom have seen me as such are sincerely mistaken...


ProfessorX