Mobbing in the Workplace - a danger for us?

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09 Sep 2015, 2:45 am

That sucks man. So is someone else going to get the kudos?



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09 Sep 2015, 3:15 am

^ I don't know.
I don't really care about that.
I just wanted to see it all come together on a public stage.


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09 Sep 2015, 3:30 am

She was avoiding you - and what a cowardly way to do it. Suggests to me that she is ashamed/guilty about her behaviour and couldn't look you in the eye.

I am really proud of you for acting as you did - asking for the meeting; being direct and persistent about your need to see her; of doing all you could in the circumstance, despite her earlier behaviour to you. She avoided you, but you sent her a message all the same.

I will hope that she reflects on her behaviour tonight and decides to ask you to the presentation in the morning.
That would be the best outcome.

You leaving, without another job - in this economic climate - would be the worst outcome.

I do think that if she doesn't change her mind, then this issue should go to informal in-house mediation in the future, preferably with an independent person who is trained in facilitation and conflict resolution. I think that's a hidden ace you possibly have. How have conflicts between others and this supervisor been resolved in the past?

You could calmly email her boss and cc her:

You worked a year on this project
Your understanding was that your would present the project
You are being excluded from the presentation
You were given no chance to negotiate this
You feel this is somewhat unfair and was avoidable - anyone would be hurt and humiliated in that circumstance
You would like to resolve this matter to improve things for the future
You are willing to engage in informal mediation to resolve what has occurred to find a workable compromise.

If your employment law allows (it probably does) another option is to file a personal grievance. You don't have to go to court to do this, though it helps to get some legal advice from a community law centre if you can.

We can't change what she did, unfortunately, but we can brainstorm options from here that don't give away your power.

I know you are hurt; take some time out just be kind to yourself, as you would be to a very hurt friend who needed soothing and appreciation ok? Decide later what will be best in the long run. Take heart Raleigh. We will see where this goes..



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09 Sep 2015, 4:12 am

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You leaving, without another job - in this economic climate - would be the worst outcome.


I believe a worse outcome would be staying and having my soul crushed further by the continual hypocrisy and mindf*ckery that goes on in that place.

I'm not without connections or talents.
I'll be fine.


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09 Sep 2015, 4:16 am

Raleigh wrote:
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You leaving, without another job - in this economic climate - would be the worst outcome.


I believe a worse outcome would be staying and having my soul crushed further by the continual hypocrisy and mindf*ckery that goes on in that place.

I'm not without connections or talents.
I'll be fine.


Right attitude dude. Its not worth the waste of time. And gettin stressed out wont change anything.



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09 Sep 2015, 4:40 am

^ You're 100% correct.


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09 Sep 2015, 4:58 am

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Incidentally liked B19s suggestion that we cultivate the mindset of a dispassionate observer as that is precsiely what we are with our wiring...observers observing a species tussling with a tool it hasn't quite perfected.


I don't really believe the sum total of human knowledge was obtained scrupulously...


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09 Sep 2015, 5:58 am

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trayder wrote:
Incidentally liked B19s suggestion that we cultivate the mindset of a dispassionate observer as that is precsiely what we are with our wiring...observers observing a species tussling with a tool it hasn't quite perfected.


I don't really believe the sum total of human knowledge was obtained scrupulously...


How do you mean?



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09 Sep 2015, 8:08 pm

trayder wrote:
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Incidentally liked B19s suggestion that we cultivate the mindset of a dispassionate observer as that is precsiely what we are with our wiring...observers observing a species tussling with a tool it hasn't quite perfected.


I don't really believe the sum total of human knowledge was obtained scrupulously...


How do you mean?

I took it to mean past knowledge was not solely obtained by observing and correcting behavior, as needed, maybe referring to some things learned or responded to more instinctually,

but while we wait to find out for certain...

Are you open to sharing sources you've consulted or trading techniques to study that have allowed you to be independent and free from mobbing-prone offices? I made quite a study of stocks and commodities, but have only managed to lose money less quickly, which is good, but not the intended goal. Feel free to PM me so as to not sideline the thread.



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09 Sep 2015, 8:15 pm

Raleigh I am very glad to hear that you have existing networks toward finding a new job. Godspeed with that. I would hate for you to become a victim of mobbing. Should this happen in the meantime, you have all of the people on this thread as a support group and someone will always be available on it to talk it through and listen.

That goes for all of us. I am so fortunate to be retired from that kind of workplace now... (though not retired from working, in my own time and way!)



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09 Sep 2015, 9:06 pm

Volegard

Self employment is actually quite useful in here (as a forgiveable sideline for anyone keen to be done with the work related mobbers for ever.)

As for trading, there is little more I can add other then my earlier communication with you. It is possibly the most complex but best paid skill and can only be learnt, intuitively, by commitment, time and observation.

Be prepared to LOSE at least 3 years of your life, to contemplate till your mind is exhausted and to observe almost never endingly. The returns are infinite but the effort can only come from you.



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09 Sep 2015, 10:07 pm

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can only be learnt, intuitively, by commitment, time and observation.

So you watch price charts and look for trends related to identifiable patterns that recur hourly, daily, weekly, etc. Is that what you're referring to?



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09 Sep 2015, 10:30 pm

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can only be learnt, intuitively, by commitment, time and observation.

So you watch price charts and look for trends related to identifiable patterns that recur hourly, daily, weekly, etc. Is that what you're referring to?


No, just the one time frame, not interested in trends but price. Read up on price discovery...theres resources on Google.

Basically I trade oscillations that are price discovered.



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10 Sep 2015, 12:36 am

trayder wrote:
voleregard wrote:
trayder wrote:
can only be learnt, intuitively, by commitment, time and observation.

So you watch price charts and look for trends related to identifiable patterns that recur hourly, daily, weekly, etc. Is that what you're referring to?


No, just the one time frame, not interested in trends but price. Read up on price discovery...theres resources on Google.

Basically I trade oscillations that are price discovered.


If you are rich, can I have some?... :mrgreen:



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10 Sep 2015, 1:40 am

Pepe wrote:
trayder wrote:
voleregard wrote:
trayder wrote:
can only be learnt, intuitively, by commitment, time and observation.

So you watch price charts and look for trends related to identifiable patterns that recur hourly, daily, weekly, etc. Is that what you're referring to?


No, just the one time frame, not interested in trends but price. Read up on price discovery...theres resources on Google.

Basically I trade oscillations that are price discovered.


If you are rich, can I have some?... :mrgreen:


Hahaha. Yeah...trading certainly gets people talking at parties. Funny how the NTs are all nice when they want something out of you.



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10 Sep 2015, 1:59 am

trayder wrote:
Read up on price discovery...

I'll do that. Thanks, trayder.