Do you want to be 'cured' of Asperger's Syndrome?

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01 Oct 2010, 2:07 pm

I would not take a cure. I see Aspergers as a gift. I grew up with two NT parents and NTs all around me and repeatedly saw what I'd never want to be. Aspergers makes me think in a clearer manner in my opinion and makes me more self aware and unique. Not every one of my problems are there because of Aspergers (I get tired of hearing people blame everything wrong in their life on having Aspergers) . Honestly there are many problems with having it... but there are many problems that would still exist if I was NT... In fact I can imagine having other more frivolous problems instead if I was NT. Honestly I'm an Aspie and wouldn't have it any other way... plus what would be the cure? A brain transplant? To cure a mind set you would have to erase who you are and be created anew. The only cure would be to have been born differently.



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02 Oct 2010, 6:55 am

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The irony is that when I was younger, I didn't mind so much. I figured my 'gifts' would allow me to compensate. And for a time they did: I was quite wealthy in my 20's. I had a nice big condo with a billiard room, Lincoln Continental, etc. Of course, the house was empty, I had nobody to play pool with, and the passenger seats of my car were always covered in books (i.e. not used).
At 30, I concluded that money is no cure for loneliness, that I couldn't stand living so miserable anymore, and that I had to change myself somehow. And since the cure doesn't exist, I decided to become a scientist and create it. (Of course, I'm using my AS gifts to do so. Perhaps more ironic.)


If you did find a cure for it, I know I would be the first in line to have it. And I would pay anything for it aswell.
Obviously I'm not clever enough to create a cure, but if you are clever enough to create a cure then go for it. I know how much you want AS to go away and hopefully, with your ambition to create a cure, it will. I don't like having AS either.
Good luck, and I know you will succeed. You will. Don't give up :D :D


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03 Oct 2010, 9:02 pm

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If you did find a cure for it, I know I would be the first in line to have it.

Second actually. I'm going first! :P

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And I would pay anything for it aswell.

I don't do IP so I'm trying to make this as cheap as is possible, hardware only. My rough estimate is around $1000 US.

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Obviously I'm not clever enough to create a cure, but if you are clever enough to create a cure then go for it.

Thus the reason I'm in the library 30 hours a week. [I took a night off for an AS support group this week. I liked it, but have trouble justifying the sacrifice of 4 hours of study time. Oh well. :evil: ]

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I know how much you want AS to go away and hopefully, with your ambition to create a cure, it will.

My raison d'être! :king:

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Good luck, and I know you will succeed. You will. Don't give up :D :D

At this rate, and presuming no allegorical runaway buses, I will have and alpha version out in 7 months, and a beta version out in 1 year, 5 months. More details later.


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At this rate, and presuming no allegorical runaway buses, I will have and alpha version out in 7 months, and a beta version out in 1 year, 5 months. More details later.

Valve time?


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04 Oct 2010, 8:55 am

I would take the cure. I have been diagnosed with Aspergers but have none of the "gifts" it is suppose to come with I am stuck with all the problems. My memory is crap, I cannot stand being around people, I am dangerously clumsy, and the anxiety I get from doing mundane things is enough to wish the curse of Aspergers on my worst enemies.


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04 Oct 2010, 10:45 am

No. I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE "CURED".
I always knew I was different, and assumed that the "normal" people were OK. Then I became a Christian and suddenly I found myself able to relate (to some degree, not to a "normal" degree) with people. I even found myself able to function with women.
Well, here is the upshot:
People are s**t. The normal people are just as screwed up as I ever was. Being around people with my new sight was like suddenly recieving a sense of smell and finding oneself in the cesspit behind a slaughterhouse.
My newfound ability to interact with women just landed me in unfruitful, painful relationships. Going through the juvenile squirmings in one's late 30's is an experience best left alone. I ended up going through some really horrific episodes of depression. On the rebound from one of them I got married. Now I'm in Hell.
The intelligence, and the tendency toward dignity and decoram, that I had before has been effectively neutralized by my having married into a bunch of uncouth, ignorant scum. Benefits squandered.
Now we have 2 kids, and I just feel like a criminal for having had them. My youngest, who I adore, and who is my reason for not dragging a lot of people down with me, is showing signs of Asperger's. I at least had the advantage of growing up around intelligent, civilized people. She has no choice except to grow up surrounded by this pack of curs, this genetic cesspool, this gang of whores, imbeciles, and scumbags that my wife calls family. God curse me!
I love my wife, despite all of this. At least that much is left. And I love my kids and a few others. Overall, though, I wish I had my old life back. Not my single life, my life as it was before I got religion. Aspergers was not that bad, and I was no worse than the filth I've had to walk through. There's something to be said for being oblivious to all those "necessities".
I wish I could go back. I never hated God before, but now I hate Him more than you can imagine. If Hegave a s**t about any of us He would not have made us, But at least before I had some satisfaction.
THERE ARE WORSE THINGS THAN ASPERGERS. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR!



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04 Oct 2010, 3:24 pm

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I would take the cure. I have been diagnosed with Aspergers but have none of the "gifts" it is suppose to come with I am stuck with all the problems. My memory is crap, I cannot stand being around people, I am dangerously clumsy, and the anxiety I get from doing mundane things is enough to wish the curse of Aspergers on my worst enemies.


Exactly how I feel about it too.


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04 Oct 2010, 8:55 pm

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Valve time?

lol. Hopefully, not that bad. But it is 'at this rate', meaning I don't know how long it will actually take.
I'm in for the distance though. Hell, I'd take Duke Nukem Forever time if it meant that it'd eventually get done.


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05 Oct 2010, 7:10 am

I wouldn't. I just want people to understand Asperger's and autism.



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05 Oct 2010, 9:01 am

Screw that. I just want to be cured of the people who have the authority to make decisions about my health and well being in society yet screw around with me...

Some examples:
- Incompetent doctors; both mind and body types.
- cops who stop you because they have nothing else to do. and freak on you when you stutter.
- government agencies and groups in place to provide assistance, but who automatically deny every applicant. (I've been informed by many counsellors that this is standard practice.)
- unions who take from your wages, but don't bother to assist you in times of need.
- corporations who hire incompetent help staff, or have such convoluted systems that you need to speak to five persons in order to get one question/request considered/answered.

I'm not saying all cops, unions, etc are like this.. but in my experience a high percentage ARE. We live in a very disordered and inefficient society.



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28 Dec 2010, 1:33 pm

It's not the social part of it what's bothering me. It's everything else to do with it is what I hate.

I can't seem to control my actions lately, and it must be an AS-related issue because NTs don't actually do this. Well, they do, but they seem to remember not to do it in front of people. Like the other day I was walking down to my nan's with my mum and my aunt, and my uncle was there with his big Alsatian dog. I don't mind the dog, but the only thing I get edgy about is when he barks, because it's really loud for me and I have bad sensory issues with my ears. And my nan lives in a small bungalow, so there's not much room for a big dog in there, aswell as more than a few people. But anyway, my mum and my aunt don't really like the dog down there either, and they moaned amongst themselves a bit, but they immediately stopped when my uncle opened the door, but I still carried on huffing, ''oh what's the dog doing here?!'' and forgot that my uncle would get upset if he heard me complaining about his dog being there - which he did. I wish I will learn to shut up when I should. It's just that when something sends me into irritation or panic, I can't always help myself remain angry, and I show my emotions a bit too much. If I feel annoyed about something, I can't seem to shake out of it until people have seen that I'm annoyed - and by then I regret showing them my irritation because it's too late.

I'm sure half my family think I don't like them. I bet if I didn't have this AS, I would be able to have 2 separate emotions; irritation on the inside and cheerful on the outside. I wish this part of AS could be cured.


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28 Dec 2010, 2:23 pm

I definitely would want to be cured of it, I want to function as a normal NT person.



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28 Dec 2010, 2:33 pm

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I definitely would want to be cured of it, I want to function as a normal NT person.


Yer me too. I would like to be cool naturally, without having to put on a front.

And I would like to go through life without having meltdowns because of the anxiety of the Swine Flu.

Oh, and I'd like to be able to go through life without being afraid of loud noise.


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28 Dec 2010, 2:34 pm

I would probably take the pill. It would be great if the pill only got rid of the traits YOU wanted to get rid of. Like getting rid of meltdowns would be nice, but I wouldn't want to get rid of my special interests.


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I would probably take the pill. It would be great if the pill only got rid of the traits YOU wanted to get rid of. Like getting rid of meltdowns would be nice, but I wouldn't want to get rid of my special interests.


Yeh, I would like to get rid of my meltdowns, sensory issue in my ears, uncontrollable anger, clinical anxieties, obsessions, and anxiety of routine change.

All of these things are getting in the way of me being able to get a job in retail - which is what I want to do, but can't because:-
Sensory issues
Noise of toddlers screaming hurts my ears and is difficult for me to ignore, and interferes with my concentration

Meltdowns
This might not interfere with work, but it might at home, if I got a full-time job, because I need time alone away from the public to relax my nerves without keep having to put on a front

Uncontrollable anger
When customers get too much, I start wanting to let them know that I'm irritated, and I can't always help myself huffing and puffing at them

Clinical anxieties
I will get too overwhelmed in a shop, especially at Christmas and Easter and Mothers Day, and other festivals like that, where people seem to go mad with shopping

Obsessions
You Aspies know how it feels to not be able to persue your obsessions well, so hopefully you will know how I feel here. I'm obsessed with bus-drivers, and if I got a full time job where I was unable to get my bus what I like getting to my volunteer job, I won't ever be able to see them, which will make my life more dull. I need part time work, and it's NOT because I'm being lazy, it's because it will make me happier. I think I'll rather work part time and be able to have days to myself but not get so much money, rather than work every day and not have any time to myself but get a bit more money. I don't care too much for money because I'm not the type to go out on shopping sprees, and I'm good at saving my money.

Routine change
I find it hard to adapt to routine changes, and this is something I can't just change with myself

Before anyone posts a reply saying, ''but how do you know you won't like retail work if you've never been out and tried it?'' because I've had plenty of work experiences in retail, and each one I've found rather beyond my tolerance, especially noise from children - that's the worst thing of all. It's best for me to avoid being around small children, if I can help it. I don't know why their ugly voices have to be so loud! Baby lion cubs can't roar loudly until they're adult lions, so why can't toddlers develop a louder voice as they become to an age where they don't really have screaming temper tantrums in public?


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07 May 2012, 12:44 am

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There really isn't really a cure for Asperger's syndrome, I know, but let's pretend there's a pill that would rid you of it. Would you want to be cured? I ask this mainly because I've come to terms with Asperger's Syndrome, and I'm more or less comfortable with the issue. Maybe it's to the point that I use Asperger's as a crutch. I suppose my biggest problem with this 'disorder' is with social issues (making and maintaining friendly/romantic relationships, etc) and I'd like to see that change. Maybe one of the traits of having AS is the reluctance to change.


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The closest thing to a cure I am aware of where a FDA approved medicine can noticeably help (not cure) some persons (not everyone) are two books:

A Remarkable Medicine book by Jack Dreyfus about the epilepsy medicine - Dilantin (not a cure) - Topic: Epilepsy/the many epilepsies

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A How To (understand) book about ADHD Inattentive (1981) by C. Thomas Wild - Tirend/NoDoz - alertness aids - (each contain caffeine - 100 mg/other ingredients) (not cures) - Topic: ADHD - the four ADHDs.

Also, there is a movie titled Awakenings with Robin Williams (about levodopa/encephalitis) based on a book by Oliver Sacks.

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In terms of science fiction, there is a book titled Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes (about being intellectually challenged). Movie (based on the science fiction book) is called Charly.

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Is it maybe possible to actually cure Asperger's in the distant future - in 1,000 years or so?

Maybe yes - but that is centuries and centuries and centuries away.

Columbus discovered America in 1492.

The USA landed men on the moon and returned them to earth in 1969.

So year 3010 - a thousand years away - maybe something by then it seems to me.


This is a prime example of being really pessimistic fellow aspergians i have done a fair amount of research on the topic and there have been many breakthroughs believe it or not. Scientists are looking into the genetics of what causes aspergers, the parts of the brain, neurons for example that are missing in someone with aspergers. Neurofeedback is being used and is very effective i can tell you from experience none of my friends(and yes i have friends) or my fiance even know that i have it they were shocked when i told them. I also read something about possibly the mercury in patients with aspergers as being unbalanced. So Really i mean any of you think it will be that long until there is a cure? because i certainly don't i'm hopeful that they will find it in no later than 30 years there have been huge breakthrough in the 21st century and all the predictions show that there will probably be huge advancements including hopefully a cure because i for one really don't like having it.